[Advaita-l] Re: Re: Brahman, Isvara, and VishishthAdvaita

Viswanathan N vishy1962 at yahoo.com
Sun May 14 23:47:53 CDT 2006

  Namaskaramulu... I salute to your knowledge. What I wanted to express is the " Truth" as I understood. It really doesnt matter whether it is Vivarta vada or beda vada or Advaitha vada....Does it matter? For that matter even dwaitic paths too lead to the ultimate Truth, unless they stop in the middle (with an ilusion thats the destination) , right?
  " Aakashat pratitanthoyam yatahagatchathi sagaram" as long as it reaches the sagaram...its fine I feel!!

Annapureddy Siddhartha Reddy <annapureddy at gmail.com> wrote:
  All: Apologies for posting this twice. I sent the previous message
without finishing my response.

Shree Viswanathan gaaru,
Namaskaaramu. I agree with you that this world of
dualities that we see around us is real, until we realize Brahman.
In fact, Advaita Vedanta says that this world is ultimately unreal only
in the sense that it gets sublated at some point (and is not eternal).
It does not say that this world is an illusion in the sense that a
hare's horn is an illusion.
But your analogy of ocean and waves is incorrect because it suggests
that the Brahman is "actually transformed" to produce this world of
dualities -- and this goes against the theory of Advaita Vedanta. Brahman
is changeless, motionless etc. in Advaita Vedanta.
Please note that I am not saying that your analogy cannot be
deduced from Sruti. You can probably take recourse to the Vivarta Vada
to explain the Sruti statements that mention that Brahman is changeless
etc. But well, it is not Advaita Vedanta then.



> Reddigaru
> Namaskaramu. I understand what you said. But still I feel that both the
> physical external world as well the inner Bhraman are real, atleat to begin
> with (just as all the charactres& events in the dream appear real untill u
> wakeup). Say in that anology of occean and waves, Only when you go deeper
> and become aware that you are the occean itself (rise the level to that
> level) you realise that you are that behind all without Birth or
> death.Untill than it wud be just too thoritical to keep saying the waves
> are just an illusion.
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