[Advaita-l] adhyAsa - part V
jay at r-c-i.com
Tue Jun 3 07:41:55 CDT 2003
praNam Bhaskar prabhujI,
Thanks for your comments.
One need not be a vEdaantin to understand the adhyArOpa of silver-conch,
crystal-red flower, snake-rope, sky-sunlight etc. Physicists have very
well explained why the atmosphere in the sky makes only blue light
get diffracted. I am still waiting for someone to articulate that physics
The question arises, when vEdAntins take the same examples such as
crystal-red flower and conclude, "similarly Atma and anAtma are also
In the case of crystal-red flower, it is the proximity and reflecting red
that brings redness to the crystal.
We all know that examples can only be used to disprove theories, and
even a thousand examples will not make a theory. So, a theory has to
stand on its own, an example may help understand that theory better.
Ex: If I line up 1000 black cows and make a theory that "all cows are
then all you need is a single white cow to disprove that theory.
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From: <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
To: "Jay Nelamangala" <jay at r-c-i.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] adhyAsa - part V
> praNAm Jay prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
> prabhuji you wrote :
> So it is incorrect to say *blueness* is superimposed on sky. All we see
> diffracted sun-light as *blueness* of the sky there is nothing that is
> superimposed there.
> > Sri Vidyashankar prabhuji has already explained this analogy as how we
> do adhyArOpa & then doing apavAda for the clear understadning of the
> topics. Further, I'd like to mention that from the pAramArtika view point
> there is no superimposition at all, it is one & only one without a second
> EkamEvAdvitiyam. But in vyavahAra, in day-to-day life, people are
> practically experiencing this adhyAsa which you cannot deny with the
> support of sheer logic. That is what Sri Shankara says in bhAShya. It is
> not proper to say that *blueness* of the sky is not there in vyavahAra.
> no one misconceives *blueness* in sky, does anyone denote in the manner
> *This is sky alone* not *blueness* superimposed sky?? correct prabhuji...
> like that way if there was no adhyAsa with regard to brahman, then the
> whole system of vedAnta ShAstra would not have instructed that Brahman is
> one & the ONLY REALITY. There is no second entity (duality/dvaita) which
> is not this brahman.
> > Prabhuji, as you said elsewhere in your series of posts on adhyAsa (III
> or IV), in brahman (chEtana/vishayi) we cannot superimpose a thing
> (jada/viShaya) that which is not its dharma (attribute). Yes, prabhuji it
> is true that brahman is not an ignorant one who is responsible for
> superimposing a dharma which does not belong to it. (There is a
> on *locus of avidya* in the list kindly gothrough it). From the absolute
> point of view, it is evident that brahman is neither ignorant nor
> associated with any delusion. But problem arises in understanding once
> come to the conclusion that apart from brahman there is another chetana
> which is adhishtAna for this delusion. This is absoulutely unacceptable
> advaita which strictly upholds the concept of *atmaikatvavAda*.
> > From the above it is clear that this adhyAsa, object of adhyAsa & the
> adhiShtAna for adhyAsa are all the byproduct of adhyAsa & it is in the
> realm of *adhyAsa* itself. As you correctly pointed out that it is quite
> evident that there is no substratum as such whatsoever for avidya, it is
> for the sake of discriminating between Atma - anAtma, advaitins say that
> the concept of adhyAsa is antahkaraNa's svAbhAvika dharma which projects a
> thing which is not there!! & this wrong perception will disappear at the
> dawn of absolute kEvala jnAna.
> > I humbly request Sri Jaldhar Vyas prabhuji & Sri Vidyashankar prabhuji
> to correct me if I misunderstood/misquoted advaitic view points.
> > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> > bhaskar
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