Jivanmukti as per Advaita-Vedanta FAQ (fwd)

Ramana R r_ramana at HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Mar 6 08:16:08 CST 2000

On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:14:42 +0530, elmec <elmec at GIASBG01.VSNL.NET.IN> wrote:

>Hari Om,
>In " Viveka Choodaamani " Sri Shankara has explained the features of a
>mukta in the shlokas numbering from 429 to 442. H.H. Sri Sri Chandrashekara
>Bharathi Swamiji of Sringeri has written a commentary on Viveka
Choodaamani. He
>being a Jivan Mukta himself would have given an apt description on this
>of Jivan Mukti.. It is in Sanskrit. If some List member can go through it
>tell us also it would be very enlightening to one and all.
>Below I have put forth my own comments upon this subject. Please do not
think it
>as audosity coming from a novice like me. I always like to share my
>with others so that I can get corrected by the enlightened forum.
>Latha Vidyaranya.
>Realisation of Brahman is the knowledge firmly established in our
>that I am not this body-mind complex. I am only a magical manifestation of
>Chetana which pervades the whole universe. This Chetana is Sat – eternal,
Chit –
>all knowing and Aananda – bliss incarnate. This gets reflected in our
>or budhdhi and our budhdhi creates the whole universe with all its
>beings. When I say  ‘ I die’ it only means that the body which is jada
dies and
>not the true I which is eternal.  This knowledge which I gain through a
>makes me a Realised person. Once I have this firm conviction that I am
>that Brahman and not any other thing which my mind can conjure up, I
become a
>person who is released by all bondages of this samsaara and I can have the
>luxury of watching this body-mind complex undergoing all changes without
>involved in any of those happenings. Have I not become a Mukta while still
>living in this body ? – a jivan mukta ?

I agree, this is what seems to be the general opinion. But is this backed
up by some scripture ??

>But how many of us can constantly put this knowledge into practise ? How
many of
>us can live in this Saakshi bhaava always ? We keep getting ourselves
>in day to day activities, forgetting momentarily the knowledge that we have
>imbibed thro our Guru. Our condition is like that of an actor who knowing
>well the role that he has been asked to play keeps getting involved
himself in
>the role to such an extent that he keeps forgetting that he is only an
>asked to play the role and not the role himself. A constant reminder helps
>to play the role unattachedly. But this true knowledge definitely comes to
>help when the day’s shooting  is called off and he has to get back home.
He no
>more nurses any of the feelings that the role had demanded from him while

Sri Ramana Maharshi says there is no momentary or permanent knowledge.
Either you know or you don't know.

>Similarly for a mumukshu, the very knowledge that he has realised
>comes handy whenever situation requires. He can still keep himself composed
>inspite of the turbulance that the life undergoes every moment. He can
watch it
>all standing away from it, sometimes interfering, sometimes aloof. The
>of this life can still bite him, but can not injure him.
>But there are many Mahaatmaas like Sri Sri Chandrashekara Bharathi Swamy,
>Sadaashiva Brahmendra Saraswathi Swamy of recent times who in their end
>of this earthly sojourn totally immersed themselves in the Brahmaananda
rasa and
>were unaware of the happenings in their surroundings, and even the bare
>necessities of the mortal body were forgotten. And they were then hailed as
>Jivan muktas. Does this mean that when they had not yet reached this stage
>outer manifestation of Brahmaatmaikatwa, they were not jnaanis ?! Just
>Sri Sri Abhinava Vidyaathirtha Mahaswamy did not show signs of this kind of
>outer manifestation of his inner Jnaana, can any body deny that he was a
>mukta ?

I didn't mean to say if Sri Abhinava Vidyathirtha is/is not a Jivanmukta.
My question was - Did he become one at the age of 15 or 20 years, when he
had the experience(for the 1st time ??) of Nirvikalpa samadhi.
>A person whether he is a Jivan mukta or a Jivan badhdha, only his
>knows. He can still look like any other ordinary mortal in the eyes of
>But a close observation of his aachaara and vichaara will surely reveal his
>Hari Om,
>Latha Vidyaranya

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bhava shankara deshikame sharaNam

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