New Member Introduction: Taina Kilpiainen
Jaldhar H. Vyas
jaldhar at BRAINCELLS.COM
Fri Jun 16 01:39:38 CDT 2000
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, S. V. Subrahmanian wrote:
> Have you ever tried stilling your mind ??? As an answer to this, please
> don't quote any scripture, for it is second hand compared to direct
Why? Is it not the recorded experiences of the previous generations? Can
experience grow stale after a while? Can it communicated at all?
> I feel without the intensity and sincerity one cannot achieve
If intensely and sincerely flap my arms rapidly I still will not be able
to fly. There is a third ingredient--viveka. The ability to discriminate
between real and unreal, good and evil etc. (or in the case of flying
feasability and futility. :-) This requires knowledge and enquiry.
> Agreed. But all I am saying is that "clever planning" should be implemented
> with sincerity and arduous effort. Because the "clever planning" would
> obviously have some slack period in it, in which all the good work done, may
> get undone. So as long as the effort part of the plan is more predominant
> than the slack part of it, it is fine, otherwise, I can't imagine where it
> will lead.
The only amendment I'll make to your words is "...sincerity and arduous
> Also you mentioned something like "Where is the hurry?". For whom ??? For
> one in whom the Love of the Lord has started surging, more of it alone can
> satiate it. "Clever planning" is not for him. In "clever planning" one
> enjoys bhoga on oneside and slowly 'tries' to progress on the other side.
> It is not for Mirabai or Ramakrishna or Ramana or Tukaram.
> Ofcourse we should not blindly imitate their ways, without being in their
> state of consciousness.
There's the rub. The benefit of Guru and shastras is they give the
objective yardstick to guide and measure our efforts
Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
bhava shankara deshikame sharaNam
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