SHosur at KBSI.COM
Fri Oct 8 08:51:35 CDT 1999
I have a question what is the difference between surrendering your actions
to God which account to say that you are saying that all these actions are
not mine but yours and the fact "I am not the doer, God is the doer".
If we were to say that the Brahman is Everything then doesn't all actions
belong to Him. The problem comes only when we get attached to them and try
to enjoy the results which might cause pain or pleasure.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ravi [SMTP:miinalochanii at YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 6:25 PM
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> Subject: saattvika tyaagam
> There is a profound and beautiful step in shrIvaiShNava rituals called
> saattvika tyaagam. Even though we (smaarta-s) do phala tyagam at the
> end using the mantra "kaayena vaacha", we do not observe the saattvika
> tyaagam. Dont you think we should adopt this?
> In principle, this (saattvika tyaagam) involves three parts. They are
> 1) Giving up the notion of "I am the doer" or sense of agency, kartrtva
> tyaagam. God alone is the doer. Having the notion, I am the doer is
> false. Hence we abandon this false notion.
> 2) When an action is performed it produces effect, the notion that the
> action performed by me produced such and such effects is wrong. The
> dominion of cause and effect belongs to God and not to us. Giving up
> this false notion of my action was responsible for this is called
> mamata tyaagam. Again we are abandoning a false notion which deceives
> our mind.
> 3) Third is the phala tyaagam. It is a natural consequence of step 1
> and 2, when the action is not ours, its cause and effect is not ours,
> how can the results be ours. Only those who suffer from the pang of I
> am the doer will suffer/enjoy the fruits of the action. We pray to God
> to take away even fruits whatsoever may cling on to us.
> This renders the whole karma, saattvika. I want to remember this (even
> if do not say any mantra) while doing sandhya etc. Do you think it
> conflicts with our sampradaayam, I think it does not. Please do correct
> AUM shrImAtre namaH
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