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Fri Feb 19 13:40:23 CST 1999
>Then clear my doubt:
>(1)From the point of view of the Absolute (Parmartika View) the
>has no validity as you have pointed out yourself so well. Hence to say
>the statement 'does or does not' both would be futile. Hence if we
>that the statement 'illustration DOES reflect' ... this also has no
>from the point of view of the Absolute.
The absolute just is. "When you^Òre all there is, what else is there to
see, feel ^Å etc."
>(2)From the point of view of the Relative (Vyavaharika as you call it)
>have asserted so well that that to link 'vyahavarik to the paramarthika
>would be logically impossible'
>hence if we say the 'illustration DOES reflect..' then are we not doing
>that 'linking the relative to the absolute'?
In our equation there are two entities : 1. The World and 2. Brahman.
Shruti says the world is brahman. The shruti also says brahman is the
absolute ie the changeless eternal. So the world, including all the
people in it, is in actuality the changeless eternal.
Ok, let us come down to our human level.
I exist. The world around me exists. As far as I can see, the world
(including other people too) is different from me. And all the world is
in a state of becoming - things come into existence, exist for a while
and cease to exist. The world is always changing. I too am changing - my
thought of this minute is replaced by a new thought. I too after a while
will cease to exist.
So how is it that I^Òm experiencing the world and myself as becoming,
when the shruti asserts that it^Òs just being?
So Advaitam says "the world is an illusion".
Here it^Òs to be noted that world includes me too. So even I, who am
thinking, willing, striving for liberation - all of which implies change
- am an illusion. So the question as to who^Òs having an illusion is
So when you question whether we^Òre linking the relative to the absolute,
you^Òre implying that the relative is distinct from the absolute and you
as an individual entity are apart from them and linking them. But as
I^Òve already said before the world is brahman. So the relative is not
anything apart from the absolute, and you as an individual are not apart
from them. The illusion is also not anything apart from the absolute.
Everything - the absolute, the relative, the illusion, you - is one and
the same - brahman.
The same way when GaudapAdAcharya says the whole world is an illusion,
he includes himself with the world too. An illusion, even in our
relative sense, has no existence of its own. Since GaudapAdAcharya is
part of that illusion, he too has no existence of his own. The illusion
which encompasses the world, which is the whole world as we know it -
has no existence of its own. Thus the known, knower and knowledge - the
relative (vyavahAra) and our conception of the absolute (paramArtika) -
are all submerged into one entity - the Eternal Changeless Brahman.
Thus there^Òs no linking between VyavahAra and ParamArtika or the snake
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