[Advaita-l] Fwd: Re: "VEDA IS NO MORE veda "
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Fri Mar 2 21:09:43 EST 2018
Thank you Venkatraghavan Sir ji
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 1:44 AM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> "in this regards is Veda is changing from something to something? "
> No, the veda does not change - Its status from the viewpoint of the jnAni
> In general, the pramANatva of any pramANa is always only from the
> perspective of the knower. If I tell you the earth is round, that is not a
> pramANa for you because you already know it, but it is a pramANa for
> someone who thinks the world is flat. So the same sentence is a pramANa for
> someone and not pramANa for someone else. anadhigatatvam, revealing a
> hitherto unknown knowledge is one of the tests for pramANatva.
> For the jnAni, who knows everything by knowing that one thing, Brahman,
> there is nothing else to know. For him, the veda ceases to be veda.
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "KALPANA MANSI" <kalpana.mansi1083 at gmail.com>
> Date: 2 Mar 2018 5:23 a.m.
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] "VEDA IS NO MORE veda "
> To: "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>
> in addition to this, it is also discussed sruti, it is a praman, is just
> informative, i.e. it only reveals brahman-atman which is already there, but
> which remains concealed and unknown due to avidya. it means that the
> work of Sruti as a pramana is needed only so long as Brahman -atman is not
> known, and once it is known there is no need for sruti. as I asked the
> above questions if after reveals the nature of atman through the help of
> sruti then there is no need of it. if so another sentence its saying the
> Veda is no more Veda that means what? Has Veda changed its nature or the
> essence? yeah for the common or ignorant of knowing the true nature of the
> self, then realized the Veda is not simple Veda something else. I used the
> word "change " particularly due to the change of human nature as Durga
> Prasad sir discussed Kosa, from this as I understood as the human being
> understand I am not this I am not this I am not food-sheath, not other 4
> also and finally realized I am none-other than the supreme-consciousness as
> Brahman, is it like this? in this regards is Veda is changing from
> something to something? this is my doubt? I am really sorry I am a learner
> stage now. if there is any type of over crossed extremely sorry.
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> > The vedas are a pramANa, a means of knowledge. When will a pramANa be a
> > pramANa? If there is a knower, who uses the pramANa to know the known.
> > do the Veda's ultimately reveal? That Brahman is the only reality. That
> > apart from Brahman, there is nothing. What is Brahman? It is the jIva
> > himself. Thus apart from the essence of the jIva, there is nothing else.
> > Everything that appears, is that essence, the jIva's svarUpa. Thus once
> > this is known- the knower, the known and the means of knowledge are all
> > understood as Brahman, and nothing else. Therefore, because there is
> > nothing further to be known, and because the division of the one Brahman
> > into a knower, known and the means of knowledge is revealed to be unreal,
> > the Veda is no more veda.
> > Regards
> > Venkatraghavan
> > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM, KALPANA MANSI via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >> Pranam to all.
> >> I am reading a book entitled "Vedanta Sangraha of
> >> Ramaraya Kavi " the essential of Vedanta, which edited by prof., R.
> >> Balasubramanian Sir & S. Revathy Mam. this book is mostly similar to
> >> Sankaracharya Philosophy, for which/ he is known as Avinavb Sankara.In
> >> the
> >> introduction Part, he discussed in the context of nature and work of
> >> Sruti,
> >> where he discussed " one who is ignorant of the truth need pramana,
> >> not one has already known the truth. to one who has realised
> >> Brahman-atman,
> >> which is real (satyam), the Veda is no more Veda, as declared by the
> >> Upanisad. " this sentence, I didn't understand please narrate it
> >> Thank you
> >> pranam to all.
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