[Advaita-l] Fwd: Re: "VEDA IS NO MORE veda "

Venkatraghavan S agnimile at gmail.com
Fri Mar 2 15:14:04 EST 2018

"in this regards is Veda is changing from something to something? "

No, the veda does not change - Its status from the viewpoint of the jnAni

In general, the pramANatva of any pramANa is always only from the
perspective of the knower. If I tell you the earth is round, that is not a
pramANa for you because you already know it, but it is a pramANa for
someone who thinks the world is flat. So the same sentence is a pramANa for
someone and not pramANa for someone else. anadhigatatvam, revealing a
hitherto unknown knowledge is one of the tests for pramANatva.

For the jnAni, who knows everything by knowing that one thing, Brahman,
there is nothing else to know. For him, the veda ceases to be veda.


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From: "KALPANA MANSI" <kalpana.mansi1083 at gmail.com>
Date: 2 Mar 2018 5:23 a.m.
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] "VEDA IS NO MORE veda "
To: "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>

 in addition to this, it is also discussed sruti, it is a praman, is just
informative, i.e. it only reveals brahman-atman which is already there, but
which remains concealed and unknown due to avidya. it means that the
work of Sruti as a pramana is needed only so long as Brahman -atman is not
known, and once it is known there is no need for sruti.  as I asked the
above questions if after reveals the nature of atman through the help of
sruti then there is no need of it. if so another sentence its saying the
Veda is no more Veda that means what? Has Veda changed its nature or the
essence? yeah for the common or ignorant of knowing the true nature of the
self, then realized the Veda is not simple Veda something else. I used the
word "change " particularly due to the change of human nature as   Durga
Prasad sir discussed Kosa, from this as I understood as the human being
understand I am not this I am not this I am not food-sheath, not other 4
also and finally realized I am none-other than the supreme-consciousness as
Brahman, is it like this? in this regards is Veda is changing from
something to something? this is my doubt? I am really sorry I am a learner
stage now. if there is any type of over crossed extremely sorry.



On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>

> The vedas are a pramANa, a means of knowledge. When will a pramANa be a
> pramANa? If there is a knower, who uses the pramANa to know the known. What
> do the Veda's ultimately reveal? That Brahman is the only reality. That is,
> apart from Brahman, there is nothing. What is Brahman? It is the jIva
> himself. Thus apart from the essence of the jIva, there is nothing else.
> Everything that appears, is that essence, the jIva's svarUpa. Thus once
> this is known- the knower, the known and the means of knowledge are all
> understood as Brahman, and nothing else. Therefore, because there is
> nothing further to be known, and because the division of the one Brahman
> into a knower, known and the means of knowledge is revealed to be unreal,
> the Veda is no more veda.
> Regards
> Venkatraghavan
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 12:10 PM, KALPANA MANSI via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> Pranam to all.
>>                        I am reading a book entitled "Vedanta Sangraha of
>> Ramaraya Kavi "  the essential of Vedanta, which edited by prof., R.
>> Balasubramanian Sir & S. Revathy  Mam.  this book is mostly similar to Adi
>> Sankaracharya Philosophy,  for which/ he is known as Avinavb Sankara.In
>> the
>> introduction Part, he discussed in the context of nature and work of
>> Sruti,
>> where he discussed   " one who is ignorant of the truth need pramana, and
>> not one has already known the truth. to one who has realised
>> Brahman-atman,
>> which is real (satyam), the Veda is no more Veda, as declared by the
>> Upanisad. " this sentence, I didn't understand please narrate it briefly.
>> Thank you
>> pranam to all.
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