[Advaita-l] Creation by Brahman - only a nimitta - Vishnu Purana - Sridhara Swamin
kalyan_kg at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 3 11:51:30 EST 2018
There is nothing in this world which affects something else just by its mere presence. (Before giving examples of sun and snow or master and servant, please think about them. They are not counter examples).
There needs to be interaction between 2 entities A and B for one to cause an effect on the other.
This is a well known issue in Western philosophy (the interaction problem) due to which Cartesian dualism runs into problems.
So also, Brahman also by its mere presence cannot cause anything to happen. Moreover, Shankara argues in BSB that Brahman is also the instrumental cause (potter-pot). Hence it would be contrary to say that brahman affects everything passively. If this is true, a mechanism of interaction needs to be proposed and explained.
On Mon, 1/29/18, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Creation by Brahman - only a nimitta - Vishnu Purana - Sridhara Swamin
To: "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Monday, January 29, 2018, 5:37 PM
Jan 29, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Kalyan via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedan
This is certainly strange. In BSB, Shankara spends
considerable time arguing that brahman is also the material
Now all you are saying is that a dependant (on brahman)
pradhAna is the material cause whereas for sAmkhya, pradhAna
is independent. (If that is the only difference, wonder why
so many polemics against the sAmkhyas). This looks like a
position that of Madhwa/dvaita would be very comfortable
I expected this kind of
understanding of the term nimitta in the post. What is
intended by the term 'nimitta maatram' is the
participation of Brahman is only passive. [ A parallel is
the term 'sAkShimAtram' in the antaryami brahmana
3.7.3 bhashyam देवताकार्यकरणस्य
स्याताम् Sridhara Swamin too uses the term
'sannidhimaatra' . The objection was: If
Brahman, in association with rajoguna, is the creator, then
the effects of rajas, namely activity, misery, etc. will
apply to Brahman. In reply thereof it is stated that the
participation of Brahman is only nimittamaatram, by mere
presence as the consciousness. This nimitta is not the
same as 'nimitta kaaranam.'
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