# [Advaita-l] shivaraatri dates this year

Raghav Kumar Dwivedula raghavkumar00 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 3 05:29:09 EST 2018

```Thank you for the post.

Om

On 03-Feb-2018 12:28 AM, "Anand Hudli via Advaita-l" <

> >>>>
> Today we follow the 24 hours cycle. Was the ghaDiya of 60 minutes used even
> by us or us it a recent introduction in to our system?
> Also was the exact duration of the one minute (60 seconds ) unit common to
> both our ancient almanacs and modern chronometry? That sounds like too much
> to be a coincidence? Am I missing something here...
> >>>
>
> Raghav Kumarji,
>
> The sUryasiddhAnta in the first chapter defines time units. The time taken
> to pronounce 10 long syllables (dashagurvakSharoccAra) is called 1 prANa
> (respiration). This is about 4 seconds. Six such prANas make a vinADI
> make a nADI or ghaTikA or ghaTI. So a ghaTikA would be 24 seconds * 60 = 24
> minutes. 60 ghaTis make an ahorAtra, i.e. a 24 hour day. This is also
> called a sidereal day (nAkShatra-ahorAtra).
>
> The 60 seconds = 1 minute construct is obviously not ancient Indian, but I
> would have to search the history of calendrical systems to see the
> connection between the two systems of units.
>
> Anand
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Correction:
> >
> > "The nishItha kAla is obtained by dividing the duration of the night
> > (i.e. from sunset to sunset the next day) into 15 parts and taking the
> > eighth such part."
> > should read- "The nishItha kAla is obtained by dividing the duration of
> > the night (i.e. from sunset to *sunrise* the next day) into 15 parts and
> > taking the eighth such part."
> >
> > Anand
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Anand Hudli <anandhudli at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> >The kanchi mutt is following the कालमाधवीयं and sriCngeri mutt is
> >> following धर्मसिन्धु...
> >>
> >> >Former is celebrating on 14th and the later on 13th !!
> >>
> >> Dear Shri Sriramji,
> >>
> >> I looked at both the (Kannada) Sringeri and (Telugu version) Kanchi
> Matha
> >> Panchangas. First of all, the tithi ending times are telling us that
> >> Sringeri uses (the ancient) Surya Siddhanta method of determining tithi
> >> ending times, while Kanchi uses dRg-gaNita. The starting and ending time
> >> for Chaturdashi tithi are 1) 10:15 PM on Feb 13 and 12:11 AM on Feb 15
> as
> >> per Surya siddhAnta and 2) 10:34 PM on Feb 13 and 12:46 AM on Feb 15 as
> per
> >> dRg-gaNita. Now, the rule for mahAshivarAtri states that Chaturdashi
> should
> >> prevail during the nishItha kAla of the day when we observe it. The
> >> nishItha kAla is obtained by dividing the duration of the night (i.e.
> from
> >> sunset to sunset the next day) into 15 parts and taking the eighth such
> >> part. The sunset times at Sringeri and Kanchi differ too, since Sringeri
> >> sunset is at 6:33 PM and Kanchi sunset is at 6:16 PM. Taking the
> duration
> >> of the night as approximately 12 hours (this is sufficient for this
> >> instance, although the actual duration of night is slightly more than 12
> >> hours), each 1/15 part of the night is 48 minutes, which is, by the way,
> >> the duration of a muhUrta. The eighth such part (nishItha kAla) starts 5
> >> hours 36 minutes after sunset. In Sringeri, this would be 12:09 AM on
> Feb
> >> 14 and in Kanchi it would be 11:52 PM on Feb 13. On the next day, the
> start
> >> of nishItha kAla is about the same in the two places. The ending time
> for
> >> the nishItha kAla would be 12:57 AM on Feb 14 in Sringeri and 12:40 AM
> on
> >> Feb 14 in Kanchi. The interesting point to note is that the vyApti of
> >> Chaturdashi is kArtsnyena (complete, as dharmasindhu puts it) in
> Sringeri
> >> on Feb 13-14 night and ekadeshena (partially) on Feb 14-15 night as per
> >> Sringeri's method, ie. sUrya siddhAnta. When this happens, the rule for
> >> shivarAtri states that the first night, i.e. Feb 13-14, should be
> selected
> >> for observing shivarAtri (paredyuH nishItha-ekadesha-vyAptau pUrvedyuH
> >> saMpUrNatadvyAptau pUrvaiva). Hence Feb 13-14 is the shivarAtri date for
> >> Sringeri. The same would have been the case for Kanchi, had it not been
> for
> >> the dRg-gaNita method which makes the ending time of Chaturdashi 12:46
> AM,
> >> beyond the ending of nishItha kAla at 12:40 AM. As an interesting twist,
> >> there is not ekadesha-vyApti but saMpUrNa-vyApti even on the second
> night,
> >> i.e. Feb 14-15 *and* saMpUrNa-vyApti on the first night , i.e. Feb
> 13-14 in
> >> Kanchi! When this happens, another rule applies which says the majority
> of
> >> the dharmashAstra-kAras recommend the second night, i.e. Feb 14-15 in
> this
> night.
> >> It appears that Kanchi has taken the majority opinion, which includes
> >> weighty granthas such as nirNyaya-sindhu, kAlamAdhava, and puruShArtha
> >> chintamaNi. Hence, Feb 14-15 is the shivarAtri date for Kanchi.
> >>
> >> Anand
> >>
> >>
> >
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