[Advaita-l] Some thoughts on the nature of bliss
H S Chandramouli
hschandramouli at gmail.com
Wed Mar 1 05:19:09 EST 2017
Pranams Sri sadananda Ji,
Reg << In my original post some time back, I was referring to Sloka 35 of
Ch. 14 of Panchadashi - where there appears to be indication of the
visyayaananda too through bodies. One explanation is as witnessing agent he
witnesses all the anandas of all jeevas - in that case he also should also
witness the sufferings of all jeevas - that was the point raised.>>,
Sloka 35 pertains to a Jnani who has concentrated his mind on Brahman. He
is then “enjoying” the svarupaananda as Brahman. But since the context here
is happiness experienced by different jivas from a sovereign upto
Hiranyagarbha vis-à-vis that experienced by a jnani, instead of
svarupananda, the jnani is depicted as “enjoying” omniscience as Iswara.
That is how I would understand this verse.
Reg << Venkatraghavanji says vishayaandanda of jnaani is only figurative
statement. His swaruuapaanada being akhanDam, it only dribbles down as
vishyaanandas when there is saatvic vRittis.>>,
I am not sure in what context he has made that statement. But as I said in
my earlier post, a jnani does experience joy/sorrow just like any of us
when he is not concentrating on Brahman and has diverted his attention to
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:03 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda <
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Chandramouliji - PraNAms
> For some reason my posts are not going through the list. Hence including
> the individual mails as welld.
> We are all agree that jnaanam involves aham brahmaasmi as a fact, and
> therefore ananda is his swaruupa lakshanam as Brahman. We also know that
> this happiness is not of the triad type.
> In my original post some time back, I was referring to Sloka 35 of Ch. 14
> of Panchadashi - where there appears to be indication of the visyayaananda
> too through bodies. One explanation is as witnessing agent he witnesses all
> the anandas of all jeevas - in that case he also should also witness the
> sufferings of all jeevas - that was the point raised.
> Venkatraghavanji says vishayaandanda of jnaani is only figurative
> statement. His swaruuapaanada being akhanDam, it only dribbles down as
> vishyaanandas when there is saatvic vRittis.
> In the 15th Ch. vidyarnya further clarifies that that duHKam comes due to
> rajasic and tamasic vRitties, the ananda gets covered and swruupaanda of
> Brahman does not show up even if it is there.
> Hari Om!
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