[Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi Shankara

Venkatraghavan S agnimile at gmail.com
Mon Jan 9 01:08:15 CST 2017


Please do not change the topic. Answer the questions first - on what basis
did you say Pathak made such a claim, when he manifestly didn't.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan

On 9 Jan 2017 7:01 a.m., "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Venkatraghavanji,

As you see Pathak has quoted the manuscript partially. There were other
people also, who  wrote on Abhinava Shankara. I wish more and more people
be inqiuisitive, do some research themselves and bring out more of  these
things. The Shankara-mathas had great scholars in the past and due credit
should be given to all of them. Hope you will also begin your quest and not
just join the wagon of the arm-chair critics.

Regards,
Sunil KB


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On Sun, 1/8/17, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi Shankara
 To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
 Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
vedanta.org>, "Vidyasankar Sundaresan" <svidyasankar at gmail.com>, "V
Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
 Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017, 10:51 PM

 Dear Sunilji,Excellent, thank you. So if you had the
 paper already and has read it, why, pray, did you ask Sri
 Vidyasankar for it?
 Also please tell me where in the
 paper  does
 Pathak claim that the manuscript that he discovered says
 that Abhinava Shankara was born in 788 in Chidambaram? Here
 is what you said previously:
 "I think Sri  Nava
 Shankara was indeed a great scholar and if I remember correctly
 the manuscript, which Pathak found and on that basis he
 (Pathak) wrote a paper, Nava (Abhinava) Shankara was
 born  in 788 CE in Chidambaram."

 Regards,Venkatraghavan
 On 9 Jan 2017 2:19 a.m.,
 "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
 > wrote:
 Dear Venkataraghavanji,



 As you have doubt, here is the paper of Pathak, which I
 read.



 Regards,

 Sunil KB

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 On
 Sun, 1/8/17, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
 wrote:



  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of Adi
 Shankara

  To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
 >

  Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita
 Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedan
 ta.org>, "Vidyasankar Sundaresan" <svidyasankar at gmail.com>,
 "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>

  Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017, 12:14 PM



  Dear

  Sunilji,

  Were you making a

  reference to Pathak's paper without actually having
 read

  it?

  Regards,Venkatraghavan



  On 8 Jan 2017 7:17 p.m.,

  "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
 >

  wrote:

  Dear

  Vidyasanarji,







  Can you please attach the paper of Pathak?







  Regards,



  Sunil kKB



  ----------------------------- - --------------



  On Sun, 1/8/17,

  Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at gmail.com>

  wrote:







   Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The Bhashyas of
 Adi

  Shankara



   To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com

  >



   Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita
 Vedanta"

  <advaita-l at lists.advaita-

  vedanta.org>, advaitin at yahoogroups.com,

  "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>,

  "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>



   Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017, 1:11 AM















   On Jan 6, 2017 11:03 PM, "Sunil Bhattacharjya
 via



   Advaita-l" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-



   vedanta.org> wrote:







   >







   > Dear Subbuji,







   >







   > I think Sri  Nava Shankara was indeed a great

  scholar



   and if I remember correctly the manuscript, which

  Pathak



   found and on that basis he (Pathak) wrote a paper,
 Nava



   (Abhinava) Shankara was born  in 788 CE in

  Chidambaram.



   This Nava Shankara is reported to have also written

  many



   texts including bhashyas and had gone to Kashmoir as
 well

  as



   to Kailash.







   >



   Dear Sunilji,



   I have read Pathak's paper in the Indian



   Antiquary. It says nothing about Nava Shankara or
 about



   Chidambaram. The paper attributes the date 788 CE to

  Adi



   Shankara and nobody else. You cannot cite Pathak in

  support



   of this fanciful theory of an 8th century Nava

  Shankara.







   >







   There might have some confusion in the past as the
 name

  of



   both Adi Shankara and the Nava Shankara was
 Shankara.

  It



   appears that Anantaanandagiri  had written a
 biography

  of



   Nava Shanaka.  Antarkar had done some work on the



   shankaravijayas  as part of his PhD work but did not



   continue that work to sort out all confusions







   >



   Sorry, anantAnandagiri also says nothing about



   Nava Shankara. His text claims to be an account only
 of

  Adi



   Shankara. However, it is an extremely problematic
 text.



   At the risk of sounding like I'm doing



   self-promotion, please note that I have published an



   extensive paper in the year 2000, published in The



   International Journal of Hindu Studies, examining



   Antarkar's papers as well as many of the original



   Sankaravijaya texts. I have sent this by email to you

  as



   well. I am only mentioning this here so that others



   following this thread are aware of it. I



   too hope that further research is taken up on these

  texts,



   but I hope that whoever does it adopts sound research



   methodology and works towards clarifying matters
 rather

  than



   confusing them even further. Regards, Vidyasankar



   > May be there is scope for more research



   and hope some university or some organization will

  sponsor



   PhD level research in this area.







   >







   > Regards,







   > Sunil KB







   > ------------------------------ --------------







   > On Fri, 1/6/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l

  <advaita-l at lists.advaita-



   vedanta.org> wrote:







   >







   >  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] The
 Bhashyas

  of



   Adi Shankara







   >  To: "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>,



   "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"

  <advaita-l at lists.advaita-



   vedanta.org>







   >  Date: Friday, January 6, 2017, 1:39 AM







   >







   >  On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at







   >  1:56 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <







   >  advaita-l at lists.advaita-



   vedanta.org>







   >  wrote:







   >







   >  > Namaste Sri







   >  Vidyasankar,







   >  > The number of the works







   >  that are called bhAshya in the mAdhavIya
 Sankara







   >  > vijaya (I sent the references earlier)







   >  when read in conjunction with the







   >  >







   >  DiNDima appear to be 16 in number. The next
 verse

  in



   the







   >  Sankara vijaya







   >  > says that Adi Sankara







   >  wrote innumerable granthAs such as upadeSa

  sAhasri,







   >  > so these are apparently classified in a







   >  different category compared to







   >  >







   >  bhAShyas.







   >  >







   >







   >  There is also a text called







   >  'hastāmalaka-bhāṣyam' which is

  admitted



   in







   >  the







   >  tradition to be a commentary penned by







   >  Shankara on the verses given out by







   >  the







   >  disciple Hastamalaka. This text is also
 published

  by



   the







   >  Vani Vilas







   >  Press, Srirangam.







   >







   >  regards







   >  vs







   >







   >







   >







   >  >







   >

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