[Advaita-l] Shankara and DrishTi-SrishTi vAda - eka jeeva vaada

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste all.

The Sidhanta is that Realization is possible ONLY through mahAvAkya
upadEsha by the Guru. From what I can gather from the responses, we seem to
be concluding that such an upadEsha is not needed after all. Anyway each of
us have our own understandings. But frankly I am surprised at the
responses. Ofcourse I would be very grateful for a response from Sri Anand
Ji as well before concluding.

Regards

On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
wrote:

> My understanding is that in the final teaching, there is nothing else
> apart from aham - everything else is negated by neti neti.
>
> That being the case, if one has sufficient viveka to separate the drik
> from the drishyA and sufficient vairAgya to dismiss the drishyA, there is
> no need to first know a tat padArtha and then do a bhAga tyAga of that that
> tat and aham to realise the aikya of the one chaitanya.
>
> Such a one can simply start off with neti neti, and end at the tvam / aham
> lakshyArtha which is svatah siddhah.
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
> On 22 May 2016 1:42 p.m., "H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Sri Praveen Ji,
>>
>>
>>
>>  Namaste.
>>
>>
>>
>> Reg  << Apologies if I'm talking out of turn, but here's my understanding
>> >>,
>>
>>
>>
>> No problem. Anyone can answer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Reg  << Not the tat, but the tvam-pada. >>,
>>
>>
>>
>>  Regret my mistake. Very bad slip.
>>
>>
>>
>> Reg  << When tat tvam asi is told by the teacher to the disciple, the
>> latter understands it as aham tat (jagatkAraNaM)/ brahma asmi. >>,
>>
>>
>>
>> The mahAvAkya upadesha is after the shishya has understood the meanings of
>> the three words tat, tvam and asi. So where is the shortcut?  It is
>> mentioned in Sri Anand Ji’s citation that there is no need to understand
>> the “tat” pada.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
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