[Advaita-l] Shankara authenticates Shiva as the son of Brahma
dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 17 03:17:42 CDT 2016
> If so, why argue for who is superior? Do anyone argue whether snake seen on
> rope illusion is Adi Shesha or Taksha ? Both are equally unreal.
Advaitins give importance to vyavahAra also. Just because rice and
stones are both superimposed on brahman and are both mithya, it does
not mean that one can eat stones instead of rice.
> Let me ask you, you argued for Vishnu's superiority based on so many
> pramANa-s including critical edition of Mbh and that is good. In the same
> line, I am curious to see how you can support illusory nature of VishNu
> based on the same set of pramANa-s. Could you please do that?
Check Shankara's bhAshya on BSB 3.2.17. Narayana shows his Vishwaroopa
to Narada and implies that it is due to mAyA that Narada is seeing Him
Also, check out bhagavatpAda's interpretation for neti neti in BU. If
brahman is forever guNapUrNa, then neti neti is not the best
description of brahman at all. But the BU itself says this is the best
description. So brahman is truly nirvishesha.
>> Vishnu, devoid of His Ishwaratva is NB and I, devoid of my jIvatva am NB.
>> Difference is that he knows and I don't know. And his grace is needed to
>> obtain jnAna and only this jnAna can destroy avidya.
> What is the locus of this knowing/unkowing? Is Vishnu's knowing aspect
> belongs to His chid (which is real)? or is it one of many arOpita guNa-s on
> Him which are illusory?
When He is knowing the world with all its jIvas and their karmas, the
knowing is illusory because the world is also illusory.
> If it is later, such knowledge of Him is equally mithya and itself does not
> exist at all in all three period of times,
> and what to speak about granting
> you that knowledge and destroying your avidya.
Even that granting the knowledge and destruction of avidya are equally
mithya! Acharya GaudapAda says that there is no bondage, no one
seeking liberation, nothing has been ever created etc.
However, none of this reduces the importance of vyavahAra, as long as
one is not a mukta. Advaitins still work for a living, eat normal food
and take care of their families in day to day life.
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