[Advaita-l] Shankara authenticates Shiva as the son of Brahma

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Mon Aug 15 04:43:18 CDT 2016


On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:09 PM, D Gayatri <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  In this context, you may refer to my previous reply to Shri
> Venkatraghavan.
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> http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/2016-August/041989.html
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> Even if you consider this sarvajna Ishwara as Shiva, there is no way to
> show that this Shiva is Brahman.
>

Why not? Why cannot Shiva the sarvajna be Brahman.  After all, Shankara has
said in the BSB: Parameshwara can take any form to bless the aspirant.

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> Also, for the record, the word Umapati is applied to Bhagavan Narasimha in
> the Narasimha tapani upanishad and so the sarvajna Ishwara could equally be
> Bhagavan Narasimha  -
>

Then, Umā the daughter of Himavān cannot be eternally associated with
Narasimha.



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> http://www.omjai.org/Nrisimha%20Poorva%20Tapaniya%20Upanishad
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> [Bhagawan Narasimha who is partly human and partly lion shines as
> Parabrahma with Rutha (discipline of the visible world) and Sathya (basic
> truth). He appears with two colours viz. black and golden red. His nature
> is to go up and he has a very terrible and fearsome stare but he is a
> “Sankara” doing good to people. He is called “Neela Lohitha (He who is red
> and black)” because his neck is black and the top of it is red. In another
> of his aspects he is Umapathi (husband of Uma) and Pasupathi (Lord of all
> beings). He holds the bow called “Pinaka” and has great luster. He is the
> god of all knowledge. He is god of all beings. He is the Lord of all Vedas.
> He is the boss of Brahma and He is praised by Yajur Veda. ....]
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> On Monday, 15 August 2016, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 1:12 PM, D Gayatri <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Depending on context, the word Ishwara can refer to God, or to Shiva
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>> Exactly.  The context is Uma's eternal association with Shiva and hence
>> the Sarvajna Ishwara is Shiva only.  No one unless he is a pervert, will
>> think of any other person with whom Uma is eternally associated. None can
>> succeed in giving any other meaning than Shiva for the word Ishwara here.
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>> Indra being called parameshwara is irrelevant here. In fact in the BU
>> there is the famous 'Indro Māyābhih pururūpa īyate' where Indra means the
>> Supreme Brahman that dons various forms to make itself known to the world.
>> The root 'id pārameshvarye' is the basis for this word Indra. Indra can
>> mean Supreme Ishwara and not the devarāja here.
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>> वागर्थाविव संपृक्तौ वागर्थप्रतिपत्तये *|*. जगतः पितरौ वन्दे
>> पार्वतीपरमेश्वरौ ||
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