[Advaita-l] If Jagat is Satya like Brahman
ryanarm at gmail.com
Wed Apr 6 07:57:52 CDT 2016
I realIse that one part of my reply makes no sense!
"In which case there is no difference - both the excreta and the
"so-called" self are simply forms of matter."
Of course there is a difference - they are forms of matter, but different
to each other.
To pose a further question which may help my understanding:
Is it correct to say that that difference exists in vyavahAra but not in
Or am I confusing the terms and applying them incorrectly?
Yours in Truth
On 6 April 2016 at 08:51, Ryan Armstrong <ryanarm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaste Venkatesh Ji
> " What is the difference between you and that dog's excreta?"
> If I may be so bold as to answer your question with a question:
> Who, or what is meant by the word "you"?
> Does "you" refer to this being, the composite of body, mind and nature?
> This is what, through avidya I spend most of the time believing myself to
> In which case there is no difference - both the excreta and the
> "so-called" self are simply forms of matter.
> Or does "you" refer to the True Self?
> In that case, the body-composite and the excreta cannot be said to be "It"
> but merely name-and-form not different in composition to "It", but not
> If everything perceived by the senses is Brahman then there are countless
> millions of Brahmans - that is not advaita.
> Brahman is unmanifest.
> The "sameness" is in the essence, not in the manifestation.
> For one thing, I smell slightly better than the excreta so already there
> is a distinction and the claim of "sameness" cannot be applied.
> Yours in Truth
> On 6 April 2016 at 05:58, Venkatesh Murthy (वेङ्कटेशः सीतारामार्यपुत्रः) <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> Everything is Brahman and Jagat is also Brahman. Therefore Jagat is
>> Satya only not Mithya. Everything in the world is Satya and Brahman
>> only. This argument will have objection by Dvaitis like this. If
>> everything is Brahman and Satya the dog's excreta lying in the street
>> is also Satya and Brahman. What is the difference between you and that
>> dog's excreta? You both are the same.
>> Therefore to avoid becoming same as dog's excreta we have to say Jagat
>> and everything in Jagat is Mithya. Dog's excreta is also Mithya only.
>> It is not Satya. But Sruti has said Tat Tvam Asi and Aham Brahmasmi.
>> Therefore I am not Mithya. I am Brahman. I am Satya.
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