[Advaita-l] Who is this Angustha Parimana Purusha?

Fri Apr 1 12:04:58 CDT 2016

```Namaste,

I am not too qualified to answer this question as to why only thumb is
given. I will try to answer.

अङ्गुल a.ngula means 'breadth of finger' or breadth of thumb' (not sure
which one to take).

Thumb is the unit of measurement. This unit is used in texts like Yoga
YajnavAlkya, highly revered by great Yogis like T. Krishnamacharya. T
Krishnamacharya revived Yoga Yajnavalkya. Nathmuni, (a Sri Vaishnav Yogi)
came in dream of Krishnamacharya and gave him instruction about his
(Nathmuni's) lost work on Yoga. T Krishnamacharya in his work Yoga
MAkaranda has explained the position of 10 chakra-s.

Distance between various chakra-s and nADI-s are measured in angula-s:

One angula means width of finger or thumb. four angulas means four fingers
joined together. One may argue that measuring any distance via finger is a
bad choice as each one has different size (thickness) of finger depending
upon height and body weight. But as far as measuring body is concerned this
defect becomes and advantage. It is said that height of human body is 96
angulas. For example if it is said that svadhisthana chakra is four angulas
lower than manipur hcakra, then this unit is true for people of all
heights, but if we say the distance between svadhisthana and manipur is 5
inches, it may not be true for a 5 year old kid. If it is true for 5 year
old kid, it may not be true for a 7 ft high person. angulas solve this
problem as said earlier, it depends upon our own fingers.

Source:
http://indiaspirituality.blogspot.in/2015/07/10-chakras-explained-to-t.html

Just shooting in the dark.

btw, in acupressure, thumb represents Head, bottom part of thumb- neck,
Index and Little fingers- hands, rest 2 are legs. Three joints in fingers
correspondingly represents three joints of hands and legs.

OM

"To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi

He who has faith has all
He who lacks faith, lacks all
It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Shashwata Shastri <
shashwata.unimas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> First part of my question does not concern about the finite Brahman (which
> is imagined as a Thumb). The goal of the question was to retrieve the
> mystery- "Why thumb in the first place? Why not index, Pinky fingers? Why
> not defining the size by relating the Brahman with other objects? What is
> mystery behind stating thumb?!" The thumb can not be a mere example or form
> which was imagined upon Brahman! There must be a definite reason to imagine
> a thumb I simply want to know about that reason.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shashwata Chowdhury
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Sujal Upadhyay via Advaita-l <
>
>> Looks like this mail was not send to Advaita-L. Hence copy pasting (with
>> corrections)
>>
>> PraNAms Sri Bhaskara Prabhu ji,
>>
>> I was asking for aNo raNeeyaN mantra  which you said is in taittereeya
>> AraNyaka.
>>
>> **Yes, taitereeya mahAnArAyaNa says it clearly : aNoraNeeyAn mahatO
>> maheeyAn AtmA guhAyAM nihitOsya jaNtOH..*
>>
>> I just wanted to study the verse for Self Study. I have a copy of
>> mahAnArAyaNa Up. (I dont have whole of taitereeya Aranyaka). If it's in
>> mahAnArAyaNa Up. ,  I could look into it if I get reference. Hence I asked
>> for verse no.
>>
>> Never Mind. Not that important.
>>
>> Little off topic - These days just focusing on neti-neti and
>> anvaya-vyatireka as mentioned in chatusloki bhAgavat BP 2.9.30-36
>>
>> *एतावद् एव जिज्ञास्यं तत्त्वजिज्ञासुनात्मनः ।*
>> *अन्वयव्यतिरेकाभ्यां यत् स्यात् सर्वत्र सर्वदा ।। **२**.**९**.**३५ ।।*
>>
>> परमात्माके तत्वको जाननेकी इच्छावले [इच्छा रखनेवाले] मनुष्यको विधिरूपसे
>> अर्थात् 'परमात्मा ऐसे है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे है', - वह भावसे तथा निषेधभावसे
>> अर्थात् 'परमात्मा वैसे नही है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे नही है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे नही
>> है'
>> [अर्थात् नेति-नेति पद्धतिसे, सिद्धान्तसे] - ऐसे भावसे इतना ही जानना जरूरी
>> है की (परमात्मा हीं) सर्वदेश और सर्वकालमें विद्यमान हैं - २.९.३५
>>
>>
>> My understanding is:
>>
>>
>> *anyava* means the cause of everything or staying as a cause i.e.
>> patamAtman. paramAtman stays in creation as cause of everything.
>>
>> *vyatireka* is process of neti-neti and last tatva that is left after
>> neti-neti. After negating that which exists or is the only thing left is
>> paramAtman.
>>
>> connected with anyava-vyatireka :)
>>
>> Hari OM
>>
>> Sujal
>>
>> OM
>>
>>
>> "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
>> nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>>
>> He who has faith has all
>> He who lacks faith, lacks all
>> It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
>> FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > PraNAms Sri Bhaskara Prabhu ji,
>> >
>> > I was asking for aNo raNeeyaN mantra  which you said is in taittereeya
>> > AraNyaka. You made a typo in earlier mail.
>> >
>> > **Yes, taitereeya mahAnArAyaNa says it clearly : aNoraNeeyAn mahatO
>> > maheeyAn AtmA guhAyAM nihitOsya jaNtOH..*
>> >
>> > I just wanted to study the verse for Self Study. I have a copy of
>> > mahAnArAyaNa Up. so I could look into it if I get reference. Hence I
>> > for verse no
>> >
>> > Never Mind. Not that important.
>> >
>> > Little off topic - These days just focusing on neti-neti and
>> > anvaya-vyatireka as mentioned in chatusloki bhAgavat BP 2.9.30-36
>> >
>> > *एतावद् एव जिज्ञास्यं तत्त्वजिज्ञासुनात्मनः ।*
>> > *अन्वयव्यतिरेकाभ्यां यत् स्यात् सर्वत्र सर्वदा ।। **२**.**९**.**३५ ।।*
>> >
>> > परमात्माके तत्वको जाननेकी इच्छावले [इच्छा रखनेवाले] मनुष्यको विधिरूपसे
>> > अर्थात् 'परमात्मा ऐसे है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे है', - वह भावसे तथा निषेधभावसे
>> > अर्थात् 'परमात्मा वैसे नही है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे नही है', 'परमात्मा ऐसे नही
>> > है' [अर्थात् नेति-नेति पद्धतिसे, सिद्धान्तसे] - ऐसे भावसे इतना ही जानना
>> > जरूरी है की (परमात्मा हीं) सर्वदेश और सर्वकालमें विद्यमान हैं - २.९.३५
>> >
>> >
>> > My understanding is:
>> >
>> >
>> > *anyava* means the cause of everything or staying as a cause i.e.
>> > patamAtman. paramAtman stays in creation as cause of everything.
>> >
>> > *vyatireka* is process of neti-neti and last tatva that is left after
>> > neti-neti. After negating that which exists or is the only thing left is
>> > paramAtman.
>> >
>> >
>> > Seems to be that everything is connected with anyava-vyatireka :)
>> >
>> > Hari OM
>> >
>> > Sujal
>> >
>> > OM
>> >
>> >
>> > "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
>> > nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>> >
>> > He who has faith has all
>> > He who lacks faith, lacks all
>> > It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
>> > FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> praNAms Sri Sujal prabhuji
>> >> Hare Krishna
>> >>
>> >> If possible, please can you point out verses
>> >>
>> >> >  which verses you are asking prabhuji?? Not clear to me.  aNo
>> raNeeyaN
>> >> mantra  is in taittereeya AraNyaka, sUkshmAt sUkshma taraM jneyaM tanme
>> >> manaH shiva saMkalpamastu is in mahAnyAsAdi mantra, and
>> >> aNurbruhatkrushahsthUlO in vishNu sahasranAma.
>> >>
>> >> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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