[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Brahman and Avidya - mutually exclusive?
agnimile at gmail.com
Wed Jun 24 03:49:51 CDT 2015
Sri Ravi Kiran,
Mostly agree with you. On 6, I would say from Brahman's point of view there
is no avidya. From avidya's point of view it is located in Brahman, and
partially veils Brahman.
On 23 Jun 2015 19:38, "Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l" <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > Sri Aurobind,
> > Both Atma gyAna and Atma avidyA are in the vyAvahArika plane only.
> > When talk of Atma avidyA removal is made, it is to be understood to mean
> > remove the notion that Atma avidyA has any fundamental existence. SAdhana
> > is needed to realise that SAdhana is not needed.
> one can understand that ..
> 1. avidya or ajnAna and jnAna is for the jIva (antahakarana) alone
> 2. Since the jIva is in folded state in deep sleep, there is absolutely no
> knowing of anything by jIva..
> 3. The importance of jnAna for a jIva is in jagrat, to remove avidya which
> is the cause for saMsAra
> 4. Brahman alone lends the existence to avidya, whose effects are
> experienced by jIva in waking/dream,
> as avidya has no existence of its own
> 5. Brahman and avidya can co-exist, as can be validated in jagrat itself (
> though Brahman being the svayamprakAsaka
> nitya shuddha buddha mukta svarupa vastu, a jIva is not knowing It because
> of avidya )
> 6. avidya has no veiling or covering effect on Brahman, as its effects are
> on the upAdhis alone
> > From a paramArthika point of view, there is nothing to remove, nothing to
> > be realised, no bandha, no mumukshu, no gyAni. Brahman is ever attained,
> > hastAmalaka-vat.
> > Regards,
> > Venkatraghavan
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