[Advaita-l] Fwd: Ramana Bhagavan on Krishna

[V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l]

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste
>
> Subhadra was not carrying but it was wife of Abhimanyu Uttara. But there
> was one more choice. Niyoga. Satyavati wife of Santanu had earlier used
> Niyoga choice to make her son Vyasa impregnate her daughter-in-laws.
> Pandavas could use Niyoga again for Uttara also if she lost Parikshit.
>

One reason why this option would not have weighed as a viable one is:  The
practice of niyoga is not admitted in kali yuga and Parikshit's was already
the beginning of the kali yuga.

>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Srirudra <srirudra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear
> > Subadra was already carrying.Is it not wise to save the child growing in
> > the womb ?A bird in hand is better than many in the bush.Also Draupadhis
> > all five sons were burnt alive by Aswathama.This was an easier solution
> > .R.Krishnamoorthy.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On 14-May-2014, at 4:01 pm, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Namaste
> > >
> > > I have never understood why Pandavas did not get more children after
> the
> > > war with Draupadi and Subhadra. Why they were so desperate to rescue
> > > Parikshit?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:12 AM, S Jayanarayanan via Advaita-l <
> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> V Subrahmanian wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Is the story of Parikshit the way it is narrated here the same as the
> > >> one in the Bhagavatam?  I have heard that Ashwatthama's missile was
> > aimed
> > >> at destroying the fetus that was growing in Uttara's womb.  When she
> > >> appealed to Krishna to save the baby, Krishna entered the womb and
> > >> protected the child from the effects of the missile.  Since the child
> > had
> > >> the darshan of Krishna even while in the womb, he came to be known as
> > >> Parikshit.
> > >>
> >
> http://www.tattvaloka.com/magazine/may-2011/article/parikshit-confronts-kali-yuga
> > >>> Is the incident of the baby delivered still born and Krishna
> reviving a
> > >> post delivery one or a narration in a different purana?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I had quoted from the Mahabharata (Ashvamedhika Parva) in a posting
> > >> earlier this month - see below. The reference to Krishna as a
> > Brahmachari
> > >> is from the Gopala Tapaniya Upanishad - also follows. Ramana Bhagavan
> > has
> > >> taken the liberty to connect the two stories.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m14/m14069.htm
> > >>
> > >> SECTION LXIX
> > >>
> > >> That foremost of beings, hearing those heart-rending lamentations of
> > hers,
> > >> touched water and withdrew the (force of the) Brahma-weapon. That hero
> > of
> > >> unfading glory, belonging to the race of the Dasarhas, promised to
> give
> > the
> > >> child his life. Then he of pure soul, said these words in the hearing
> of
> > >> the whole universe,--'O Uttara, I never utter an untruth. My words
> will
> > >> prove true. I shall revive this child in the presence of all
> creatures.
> > >> Never before have I uttered an untruth even in jest. Never have I
> turned
> > >> back from battle. (By the merit of those acts) let this child revive!
> As
> > >> righteousness is dear to me, as Brahmanas are specially dear to me,
> (by
> > the
> > >> merit of that disposition of mine) let Abhimanyu's son, who is born
> > dead,
> > >> revive! Never hath a misunderstanding arisen between me and my friend
> > >> Vijaya. Let this dead child revive by that truth! As truth and
> > >> righteousness are always established in me, let this dead child of
> > >> Abhimanyu revive (by the merit
> > >> of these)! As Kansa and Kesi have been righteously slain by me, let
> this
> > >> child revive today by that truth!' After these words were uttered by
> > >> Vasudeva, that child, O foremost one of Bharata's race, became animate
> > and
> > >> began gradually to move, O
> > >> monarch.'
> > >>
> > >> Krithna as a Brahmachari:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.celextel.org/upanishads/atharva_veda/gopalatapaniya.html
> > >>
> > >> Gopala Tapaniya Upanishad
> > >>
> > >> Chapter Two
> > >>
> > >> 5. The Gopis said: How will we cross the Yamuna's waters and approach
> > Him,
> > >> from whom great blessings will come?
> > >> 6. Krishna said: Say the words Krishna, the brahmacari, and the Yamuna
> > >> will give you a path.
> > >> ...
> > >> 12. Gandharvi (Srimati Radharani), the best among them, reflected for
> a
> > >> moment.
> > >> 13. She said: How is Krishna a brahmacari? How is this sage a person
> > that
> > >> eats only Durva grass?
> > >>
> > >>> subrahmanian.v
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:14 AM, S Jayanarayanan via Advaita-l <
> > >>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > >>> I just happened to search "Talks with Ramana Maharshi" on Bhagavan
> > >> mentioning Krishna, and was surprised to find the incident of Krishna
> > >> reviving Parikshit indirectly referred to as a "siddhi", along with an
> > >> exhortation not to judge a Jnani by his conduct! Here it is:
> > >>
> > >> ------------------
> > >> Talk 449.
> > >>
> > >> Sri Bhagavan now warned the hearers against the mistake of disparaging
> > >> a Jnani for his apparent conduct and again cited the story of
> Parikshit.
> > >> He was a still-born child. The ladies cried and appealed to Sri
> Krishna
> > >> to save the child. The sages round about wondered how Krishna was
> > >> going to save the child from the effects of the arrows (apandavastra)
> > >> of Asvatthama. Krishna said, “If the child be touched by one eternally
> > >> celibate (nityabrahmachari) the child would be brought to life.” Even
> > >> Suka dared not touch the child. Finding no one among the reputed
> saints
> > >> bold enough to touch the child, Krishna went and touched it, saying,
> “If
> > >> I am eternally celibate (nityabrahmachari) may the child be brought to
> > >> life.” The child began to breathe and later grew up to be Parikshit.
> > >> Just consider how Krishna surrounded by 16,000 gopis is a
> > >> brahmachari! Such is the mystery of jivanmukti! A jivanmukta is
> > >> one who does not see anything separate from the Self.
> > >> If however a man consciously attempts to display siddhis he will
> > >> receive only kicks.
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> > >
> > > -Venkatesh
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