[Advaita-l] 'world' is not the mental creation of tiny soul !!

Venkatesh Murthy vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 28 07:04:41 CDT 2014


Namaste Sri Sadananda

I am confused by your reply. If you say dream world of tiny Jeeva is that
tiny Jeeva's Srishti but waking world is Ishwara's Srishti there is no
logic for supporting this. Many of our Acharyas like Gaudapada have treated
dream and waking as name.



On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:25 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda <
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Shree Venkatesh - the inside you vs outside depends on who is that you
> that is being referred to. From the point of waker mind which with respect
> to creation is the global mind - it is inside. But from the point of a tiny
> subject inside the dream, the dream world from Iswara srushti is outside -
> and if he has some wrong notions about it those notions that belong to only
> the BMI of the tiny jiiva or in his tiny. There is shift if reference when
> one is taking about the mind of the waker vs the mind of the tny jiiva
> inside the dream. The waker's mind pervades all the chara and achara of the
> dream world - it also pervades the other jiivas in the dream including the
> mind of the tiger that is chasing the tiny jiiva. Scripture uses the
> parallel statement - ekona vimshati mukhaH - there are 19 gateways - for
> both waker jiiva and dreamer jiiva. For dreamer subject the dream world is
> outside his nineteen gates - for him it is vyaavahaarika satyam when he is
>  transacting with his world - hence the sloka - sakaale satyavat bhaati
> prabhode satyasat bhavet.
>
> Hari Om!
>
> Sadananda
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 3/28/14, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  This very important Sloka is appearing in Maanasollaasa by
>  Sureshwara
>  स्वप्ने स्वान्तगतं
>  विश्वं यथा
>  पृथगवेक्षते ।
>  तथैव जाग्रत्कालेऽपि
>  प्रपञ्चोऽयं
>  विव्च्यताम् ॥
>
>  It is saying like the dream objects in the dream are
>  appearing outside but
>  there are all inside you but not outside. Similarly in
>  waking also the
>  objects are appearing outside but actually they are inside
>  you only. There
>  is no difference between dream and waking.
>
>  If you read Maanasollaasa you will immediately understand
>  the Jeeva is
>  creating everything in both dream and waking.
>
>  You believe you are creating dream objects and they are
>  inside you but they
>  appear outside.  You have to believe you are creating
>  waking objects also.
>  The waking objects are also in you but you think they are
>  outside.
>
>
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Regards

-Venkatesh



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