[Advaita-l] sharira a must for Brahma Jnana
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Sat Feb 1 11:53:00 CST 2014
Sastras speak of Jivanmukti (liberation while alive) and Videhamukti
(liberation after the fall of the body).
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 3:53 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Sumitha Ramachandran <
> sumitha.rama at yahoo.com
> > wrote:
> > Namaste.
> > In Vivekachoodamani we have the verse Janthoonaam narajanma
> > dhurlabham........
> > wherein the importance of a Narajanma is stressed.
> > Does one require a sharira (body) for Brahma Jnana?
> > We have heard that King Janaka got jnana from formless yogis . If one can
> > be helpful in giving jnana in a formless state, can one take them too
> > formless? Or is it that one has to take a human form and do shravana ,
> > manana and nidhidhyasana to obtain Jnana?
> > What do the scriptures have to say about this?
> In the Chandogya upanishad 8th ch. we have the story of PrajApati giving
> the instructions on brahmavidyA to Indra and virochana, both non-humans.
> There are many such cases in the upanishads. In fact the Br.up. 1.4.10
> says 'whoever among devas, rishis, manushyas, know in the form of 'aham
> brahma asmi' essentially become That.' So, it is not mandatory that one
> has to be a human either to give or receive brahmajnAna. Only that in the
> human body it is said the sAdhana is easy since there is a lot of
> opportunity for generating vairagya. In kathopanishat it is said that in
> manushya loka and in the Brahma loka alone there is great clarity in
> brahmajnanam. But, Shankara says, it is extremely difficult to first of
> all go to brahmaloka. Therefore it is best to strive for and obtain It in
> the manushyasharIra itself. In pitR and gandharva and other lokas so much
> clarity is not there, meaning, it is difficult to obtain.
> > Thanking in advance,
> > humbly,
> > sumitha
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