[Advaita-l] In defense of Advaita and Vivarta-Vada
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Mon Nov 25 09:32:02 CST 2013
Please look up Lord Krishna view on varna in Srimad Bhagavad Gita, never was meant to by birth
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> On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:
> Pranams Ravi ji,
> RAvi: Moksha and gyana is open to all. Socially and legally one can chant
> Veda , become a purohit , etc but that is proper per Shastras. Similarly
> with regards to marriage , diet, etc.
> Moksha and gyana are open to all, but karma Kand, as full time job, is
> exclusive to Brahmins, as they are not allowed to do any job.
> Various e.g. from both sides claiming vArNa is by birth and other claiming
> varNa is by guNa can be given from shastra-s.
> Only thing that make me to favour varNa by Birth is
> VarNa is by guNa, but guNa is by birth BG18.41 Shankara BhASya. Else why
> would bhagavan give birth in a particular family?
> There are e.g. of promotions form lower to higher varNa, but there is no
> single e.g. of demotion. What if Brahmin commits a sin or a Kshatriya
> commits a sin, does they get pushed down to a Shudra?
> Is there a procedure for promotion or demotion. The only procedure I know
> is upnayana sanskaara which gives rites to 3 varNa-s to study veda-s.
> Vedanta or tatva Jnana can be given to all, but the way of teaching may be
> Sujal Upadhyay
> "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
> He who has faith has all
> He who lacks faith, lacks all
> It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Ravi Chandrasekhara <vadhula at yahoo.com>wrote:
>> What does it mean by allowing another jaathi /varna member to follow
>> Braahmana dharma?
>> Moksha and gyana is open to all. Socially and legally one can chant Veda ,
>> become a purohit , etc but that is proper per Shastras. Similarly with
>> regards to marriage , diet, etc.
>> Also then the corollary, if a Nraahmana behaves like a Shudra, then in
>> order to follow dharma properly, should we cut off his yagnopaveeta ?
>> Ravi Chandrasekhara
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>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 22:33, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com>
>>> True. The very fact Krishna is saying that renounce all Dharma's show
>>> the person had already overcome Adharma. This is Ideal stage that every
>>> person must aspire for. Once, we surrender ourselves to God giving up all
>>> our duties etc a
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