[Advaita-l] I am Alone in the Universe?

Venkatesh Murthy vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 5 23:54:05 CST 2013


Namaste

I thank you for showing difference between Advaita and Solipsism.  In
Solipsism the Mind Body is real for me. But in Advaita even this Body
and Mind
are Mithya only. I have one response for your point below.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:10 AM, S Srivastava <sksrivastava68 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> But question is how can anyone take the Guru seriously if he is
>> only a dream creation? How can there be liberation without taking Guru
>> seriously?
>>
>>
> I awareness that creates all these dream characters indeed does not have
> any reason to take a dream guru seriously. It is the dream "I" that needs
> the teachings of the dream guru - not the I awareness that is the creator
> of dream "I" as well dream guru.
I awareness cannot do anything. It is Brahman. The Upanishad is saying
Aham Brahmasmi. It does not require any Guru's teaching. But the dream
I requires Guru's teaching. The dream I must have Mumukshutva 'I am
stuck in this dream but I do not know how to end this dream. I have to
go to the dream Guru to end the dream. The dream Guru will be like a
dream tiger. The dream tiger can make the dream terminate ' . Then in
the dream I can take the Guru seriously.

If I think I can be in this dream and no need to end the dream it will
continue for ever. But why should I end this dream ? Because the dream
is not always making me happy. If I have only good dream let it
continue for ever. But I cannot control my dream. Sometimes it becomes
a bad dream and makes me unhappy. I must end this dream to make me
happy always.

I am Alone in the Universe. All the people, family, friends are all in
my dream only. They are not real.


>
>
> They have said Advaita is different from this Solipsism. How is the
>> Eka Jeeva Vada different from Solipsism?
>
>
> Solipsism  considers all others as dream characters in the dream of this
> particular body-mind organism which is considered to be myself. It accords
> a higher level of reality to one special body-mind organism among a
> multitude. So this particular body-mind organism is considered as real
> while all others as simply dream characters. Advaita turns this concept on
> its head. All other characters including this particular body-mind organism
> which is considered to be myself have the same order of reality - whether
> you call it dream or appearance.
>
> Advaita is not solipsism. It is the true seeing of our raw experience. Do
> we not see this particular body-mind organism also an object just like
> others? Wherever we turn our attention we find only objects. The subject
> cannot be found anywhere. However the word "object" is meaningful only in
> contradistinction to the word "subject". If there is no subject then there
> is no point in saying that all we find is object. At this point the
> difference between the subject and the object collapses and there is only
> pure intimacy of experiencing, which is also called "I" awareness.
>
> praNAm
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Regards

-Venkatesh



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