[Advaita-l] Eternal Loka
Jaldhar H. Vyas
jaldhar at braincells.com
Sun Jul 28 17:40:40 CDT 2013
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, rajaramvenk at gmail.com wrote:
> Hare Krishna. There is no confusion of terminology but a clear
> contradiction in understanding between two traditional scholars on a
> basic point. I asked a specific question about what happens to sarvajna
> Ishwara and Vedas. Jaldhar said that both merge in to Parabrahman and
> lose identity. According to you, everything merges in to Ishwara
Where in Shri Subrahmanian's replies to you does he suggest this avyakta
is anything other than what I have referred to as parabrahman? We are
both referring to the nirguna sole existent self.
In the phenomenal material universe we perceive Brahman as possessing
lordly qualities such as omniscience etc and call it Ishwar.
In the potential universe, material yet unmanifest, we refer to is as
avyakta or Parabrahman etc.
It is also possible to speak of Brahman without reference to the universe
The Samkhyas also use the term avyakta. For them it is an inert thing and
the contraction and expansion of universes occurs automatically. But
while the Vedantins accept an unmanifest state of the universe, it is
Brahman that pervades all even then. This is why Shankaracharya
frequently uses the phrase "Narayana who is higher than the avyakta" The
difference between the Vedantic and Samkhya definition of avyakta is
explained in the bhashya on brahmasutra 2.4.7
> There is a reason why this contradiction or a difference in perspective
> exists in the tradition. In fact, it goes all the way up to liberation.
> Does a jIvA realise ekatva with Brahman or Ishwara? The common answer is
> Brahman. Appayya Dikshitar takes up this question and says it is
And do you think Appayya Dikshit means anything other than Brahman by
> Neither of you have answered what happens to the omniscience of the lord
> in mahapralaya.
What is omniscience? The perfect knowledge of all places and times. If
there are no places and times there is no scope for omniscience or an
Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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