[Advaita-l] Fw: [USBrahmins] Re: Fw: [hc] Reinterpreting Dwaita versus Adwaita by sanjay rao
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 29 10:57:28 CDT 2012
This shows that Ramanujacharya did not see God in monkey. In Lord's creation nothing is bad. Adi sankara fell at the feet of the wise Chandala. Would it have been possible for Ramanujacharya?
From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fw: [USBrahmins] Re: Fw: [hc] Reinterpreting Dwaita versus Adwaita by sanjay rao
My friend said Advaitis also used foul language to explain Kapyasa in
Vedanta. Yatha Kapyasam Pundarikam Evam Akshini in Chandogya Upanisad.
Adi Sankara is saying eyes like monkey's behind part. Ramanuja heard
it from his Advaita Guru and started crying because they were using
foul language against God. Tears came from his eyes. They were saying
God's eyes are red like monkey's behind. He gives a different meaning
to Kapi. Kapi is Sun but not monkey. God's eyes are red like the lotus
lighted by Sun rays.
2012/9/28 V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
> sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> From: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
>> To: "USBrahmins at yahoogroups.com" <USBrahmins at yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [USBrahmins] Re: Fw: [hc] Reinterpreting Dwaita versus
>> Adwaita by sanjay rao
>> Dear friends,
>> In order to create a great image for himself Madhvacharya called Adi
>> Sankaracharya a demon, without any basis. One who has read the chapter 22
>> of Madhvacharya's Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya, knows about it and the
>> hostility of Madhvacharya against the great Adi Sankaracharya.
>> Madhvacharya's disciple Narayana Panditacharya wrote baseless things about
>> Adi Sankaracharya and his mother, in the sixth chapter of the Mani-Manjari.
>> He wrote the Mani-Manjari to predispose the people against Adi
>> Sankaracharya. The Narayana went on to write the biography of Madhvacharya.
>> No civilized person can write the extermely dirty language used by Narayana
>> Panditacharya for character assassination of Adi Sankaracharya and his
>> family. If the Moderatorji permits I can reproduce some portions of the
>> Mani-Manjari so that the esteemed members can see for themselves what type
>> of man Narayana Panditacharya was. He at first pointed out about the
>> disagreements of the Sankara
>> Vijayas and then went on to write his imaginary things about Adi
>> Sankaracharya. Of course one can admire the extremely shrewd tactics of
>> Narayana Panditacharya.
> I am reproducing here an old post of mine to this forum:
> The problem with some traditions is the criticism is done at personal level
> - The very implication is they do not have substance in the criticism of
> the contents.
> In the introduction to the book 'UpaniShadbhAShyam' published by the Mahesh
> Research Institute, Varanasi, the editor Vidwan S.Subrahmanya Sastri has
> presented three sample passages from the works of Shankara, Ramanuja and
> Madhwa that indicate the kind of language these Acharyas used while
> attacking their opponents:
> परमतनिराकरणप्रधानं पादमारभमाणश्च भगवत्पादाः ’ननु मुमुक्षूणां मोक्षसाधनत्वेन
> सम्यग्दर्शननिरूपणाय स्वपक्षस्थापनमेव केवलं कर्तुं युक्तं, किं
> परपक्षनिराकरणेन परविद्वेषकारणेन’ इति परमतनिराकरणे स्वस्यानाग्रहं
> प्रदर्शयन्ति ।
> रामानुचार्यास्तु औपनिषदं भगवत्पादमतं दूषयिष्यन्तः पूर्वपक्षान्ते -
> गुणविशेषविरहिणां अनादिपापवासनादूषिताशेषशेमुषीकाणां
> न्यायानुगृहीतप्रत्यक्षादिसकलप्रमणवृत्तयाथात्म्यविद्भिः अनादरणीयम् । इति
> वदन्तः केवलं अचिकित्स्यं मत्सराख्यं पित्तं प्रदर्शयन्ति । एतादृशानि
> परदूषणप्रकाराणि श्रीशांकरेषु ग्रन्थेषु दुर्लभानि । ....
> मध्वाचार्यास्तु इतोऽपि कटुतरभाषिणः यत एते स्वीयगीताभाष्यान्ते -
> सङ्कराख्यस्य दुर्योनेर्निस्सृतेन रजस्वला। गीतानारी समीरेण शोधिता
> इति बहु असम्बद्धं वदन्तः ।
> [Someone told me that the Madhwas were themselves piqued by the above
> language of Sri Madhwacharya that in a recent publication of the Gita
> bhashya a Madhva institution has deleted the above verse.]
> I am not translating the above passages here.
>> I am proud to say that in spite of such grave provocations, the Advaitins
>> did not loose their cool and they behaved majestically all these centuries.
> One Raghunatha Suri wrote a book in retaliation 'mANikya manjari'
> describing the 'birth' of Sri Madhwacharya, which has been refuted by a
> scholar of the Madhwa school.
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