[Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??

[ravi chandrasekhara]

May be true but from what Jaldhar I think mentioned few years ago on this is list is that Shankaracharya in his bhashya stated Jabala was a Braahmana by birth. But in general, even Gurus (Not Rishis) may not have authority to convert one to a Shudra, Braahmana, etc. In addition, "who is the correct Guru" ? For example, Dayanand Saraswati of Arya Samaj would give Upanayana Samskara to anyone, but the traditional Sampradaya Acharayas (Shankaracharyas, Madhwa Mutts, Sri Vaishnava, etc) state it is contrary to Shastras and not correct.

Ravi Chandrasekhara


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 From: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
To: ravi chandrasekhara <vadhula at yahoo.com>; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??
 

Dear Raviji,

The guru can give the adhikara in the deserving cases. Satyakama is an example.

Regards,
Sunil KB



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 From: ravi chandrasekhara <vadhula at yahoo.com>
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Cc: RAVI CHANDRASEKHARA <vadhula at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:34 AM
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It is wonderful to hear, but per shastras he has no adhikara for Upanayna and sandhya-vandana. There is alternative Sandhya method for those who do not have adhikara.  Dvijas who default on their duties on the other hand will hav eto answer/pay for it later.

Ravi Chandrasekhara


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From: kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] mleccha-s not eligible to take Hinduism??


PraNAms

I just saw Shivashankar/Lundgren mail. I have a fond memories of meeting him in person in Stockholm and almost had daily extensive discussions
 on Advaita Vedanta. He organized my talk at the local Hindu temple and we had after scrumptious South Indian dinner.  

He is more a Hindu than many Hindus I have met and more a Brahmin than many I know.

Hari Om!
Sadananda

--- On Tue, 6/26/12, S L Shivashankar <slshivashankar at gmail.com> wrote:


> I can speak from years of personal experience here: I have
> myself undergone
> upanayanam many years ago, and I have never on any occasion
> encountered any
> traditional pandit or acharya who has said this was a
> mistake. On the
> contrary, they have been very happy finding out that a
> westerner (i am from
> Sweden) have undergone upanayanam, and they have encouraged
> me and
> instructed me to strictly perform my sandhyavandanam,
> performing pujas
 and
> study traditional vedic chanting. Moreover, I have several
> western friends
> with similar experiences from traditional acharyas, pandits
> and mathas.
> 
> Warmest regards
> S. L. Shivashankar
> (a.k.a. Stig Lundgren)
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