[Advaita-l] Is the concept of maya essential to explain advaita?
bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com
Tue Jan 24 04:58:54 CST 2012
praNAms Sri Venkatesh prabhuji
The example Mayavadi is using is Snake and Rope Illusion.
> If you call advaita saMpradAya Acharya-s as mAyAvadin-s, then yes, both
gaudapAda & AchAya shankara use this analogy at various places in their
He is saying after Jnana of Rope Snake will get destroyed.
> Yes, this is true. No more snake after realization of rope.
Nobody will say I am seeing Snake and Rope both.
> Yes, you are right.
My conclusion about Mayavada is correct.
> No, your conclusion about rope & snake analogy is correct. And it is
correct to the extent of rope & snake analogy only :-))
He will say World is like Snake will get destroyed when we realize
> No!! mAyAvadins like shankara says after realization of brahman by the
jnAni, he would see the jagat as brahman only nothing else. Please see
chAndOgya maNtra bhAshya 6.2.3. shankara bhagavatpAda exactly uses this
analogy to explain that kArya jagat is nothing but kAraNa brahman in its
svarUpa. Here he answers a question: asadeva tarhi sarvaM yadgruhyate
rajjuriva sarpAdyAkAreNa?? The purpose of this analogy is not to prove
jagat mithyatva, it is there to drive home the point that that which is
appearing as 'snake' (jagat) is nothing but 'rope' (brahman).
I am saying this about Mayavada correctly. Kindly read my earlier message
> As I told you earlier prabhuji, it is not an advaitin's responsibility
to clarify each & every fancy idea of mAyAvAda by a stranger when it is
not ably supported by authentic advaita works. I have read more fanciful
definitions of mAyAvAda and advaita in Srila prabhupad's books!! But what
matters ultimately is a relevant quote from the saMpradAyavit's works. But
unfortunately in all your definitions it is quite conspicuous by its
> So, be kind enough to provide appropriate quotes for your definitions
before making any sweeping statements/conclusions about mAyAvada in
particular and advaita siddhAnta in general. Hope you would do the
needful in this regard in your subsequent mails.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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