[Advaita-l] Advaita and modern science
sgadkari2001 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 24 04:46:46 CDT 2011
Namaste Dr. Yadu,
I completely understand your frustration with the state of affairs when it comes
practical application of veda-s. But things are changing.
I have discussed this topic multiple times in this list. Here are some brief
1. Let us discuss "Science and Spirituality" or "Science and Veda", if you start
discussing about "Science and Advaita" you will get diverted into unnecessary
discussions as you can see from the responses to your posts.
2. Modern Science takes a completely materialistic approach - has place only for
observable "Material" - which includes matter and energy, in it. Spirit, or
Consciousness are at best abstractions of "Material" interactions.
3. The first step to take is postulate Consciousness as another entity in
4. Next we start understanding how "Material" and Consciousness affect each
Property1: That Consciousness is affected by "Material" is obvious.
Property2: That "Material" is also affected by Consciousness is slowly being
5. The logical next step is asking how Property2 may be harnessed to expand the
horizons of applications of Modern Science. This is where sooner or later one
realizes the need to have a much more systematic understanding of the
Here enter the tattvas as expounded in different ways by different RSi-s.
6. Next we have to start asking how can the knowledge of tattva-s be applied to
our daily lives. I think this is the knowledge that is more or less lost
These are the innumerable vidyA-s expounded by different RSi-s. This
of vidyA-s is what I would call veda in the most general understanding of
7. Today if we somehow rediscover vidyA-s and ask how our understanding of
science can further enrich these vidyA-s or even better formulate new vidyA-s
is the GRAND GOAL that I think we should strive for. Enrich veda by
from Modern Science.
Here ends the description for an applied scientist. Next points are where
vedAnta enters into picture.
8. After one learns about this vidyA, and that vidyA, and that another vidyA,
yet another vidyA and so on ..., one may start asking, this surely is a
wealth, but I see no end to this. Is there one vidyA knowing which all other
vidyA-s are known. This is the brahma vidyA. This is where vedAnta enters.
9. The one tattva to know which when known everything else is known is saguNa
10. The quest to realize, attain saguNa brahma itself is an unending quest. This
when one finally asks - what did saguNa brahma know that he became saguNa
The answer to this is nirguNa brahma. This where advaita enters.
I am not aware of any living "videhamukta" individual who practices
advaita, including the any of the living Shnakaraachary's of any Matha?
Let us take the practical example from vedic literature about "malaria" (known
Suuktakaara expresses his desire to drive out the maleria (takman) in the
direction of "baahlika" (some archaeologists identify this are Bactria province
This tells us that
Maleria was there and they had a desire to drive it our of their country /
community. Has chanting the suukta with correct udaatta, andaatta,
svarita ....... etc helped the situation for 1000's of years? Answer is no.
Here, Advatic Vedaanti would say that is vyavahaarika dvaita and we have nothing
to do with it we are only here to talk about advaita only.
It is the scientist who
recognized that Chinsona bark contains Quinine. So when British came
that quickly realized and creating a drink "Jin & Tonic" that can
possibly prevent malaria. So this is practicing advaita as well. Here,
knowledge of malaria and quinine is acknowledged and that was consumed
for prevention. This is the practical viniyoga of paata~Njala Yoga Sütra(2.16)
heyaM duHkhama anaagatam,
which literally means avoiding the misery that has not yet manifested.
Is that not what Acharya also advocates to become ONE with the outside
knowledge. yaH saakshata kurute porabodha samaye svaatmaana mevo dvayam ?
If one performs the yaj~na using anti-malarial ingredients as smaidhaa may be
helpful, not the academic chanting.
All problems exists because of our ignorance, only if they are acknowledged and
possible solution implemented toward making
life little bit more bearable !? Knowledge needs to advance for the
continuous perpetual refinement. vij~naanam yaj~nam tnute karmaaNi
tan'ute pi ca || taittariiya 188.8.131.52 ||
The only constant thing that is trikaalaatiita is the "CHANGE" itself.
My question is whether Vedanta helped our country in any shape or manner
except for gloating with ahaMkaara that I have understood Vedaanta !?
This why I had used the analogy of a ladle that is incapable of enjoying the
flavor of the soup.
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