[Advaita-l] Is Brahman saguNa or nirguNa or aguNa?
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 29 02:30:03 CDT 2011
Kindly permit me to differ. Saguna upasana need not be on Murti always. Murti-upasana is only for a beginner. Lord Krishna sais "Pratimaa Alpabuddhinaa Sarvatra Samadarshinaam". One has to see God everywhere in every being.
Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
--- On Thu, 4/28/11, Br. Pranipata Chaitanya <pranipata at hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Br. Pranipata Chaitanya <pranipata at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Is Brahman saguNa or nirguNa or aguNa?
To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 10:48 PM
vedAntasAra of sadAnandaji, adhikArilakShaNa---
adhikAri tu. . . kAmya niShiddha varjana puraHsaram . . . upAsanA anuShthAnena. . .
murti to refer vigraha(arcAvatAramUrti); pratimA to omkAra; linga to saligrAma etc.
> From: lalitaalaalitah at gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:39:00 +0530
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
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> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:39, Br. Pranipata Chaitanya <
> pranipata at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > But I think the scriptural quote was requested for the statement that
> > vedanta says graduation from saguNa to nirguNa will happen.
> No. Not wholly true.
> This is what V. Subrahmanian said :-
> *In Vedanta, worship of saguNa Brahman, considered relatively easier, [and]
> is aimed at training one to eventually graduate to take up the sadhana of
> nirguNa Brahman which alone can confer liberation.*
> I was confined to first part of statement, i.e., worship of saguna is
> The second part needs some other evidences. And I don't support it as it
> will mean that upAsana is not meant for devatA-prasAda or fulfillment of
> So, what you said is better than that.
> The general conclusion is that both these are for different adhikArins. The
> > liberation process is also different sadyomukti/kramamukti.
> Yes. But they can occur in same place too, as in madhusUdana-saraswatI,etc.
> However, upAsanA, done for citta-ekAgratA, can start with mUrti, progress
> > thro pratimA/linga to avyakta(formless) as one advances in concentration.
> If you mean upAsanA is meant for concentration only, you are doing the same
> mistake, i.e., saying without and against evidences.
> Is there any difference between mUrti and pratimA ?
> > This can happen only for one whose lakShya is nirguna and cannot be
> > generalised that all will graduate from saguNa to nirguNa.
> Appears OK. Any detail or evidence ?
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