[Advaita-l] Is Brahman saguNa or nirguNa or aguNa?
Br. Pranipata Chaitanya
pranipata at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 28 23:09:54 CDT 2011
But I think the scriptural quote was requested for the statement that vedanta says graduation from saguNa to nirguNa will happen.
The general conclusion is that both these are for different adhikArins. The liberation process is also different sadyomukti/kramamukti.
However, upAsanA, done for citta-ekAgratA, can start with mUrti, progress thro pratimA/linga to avyakta(formless) as one advances in concentration. This can happen only for one whose lakShya is nirguna and cannot be generalised that all will graduate from saguNa to nirguNa.
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> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 06:39:53 +0530
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> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 05:39, Krishnadas <krishnadas135 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Please advise the scriptural reinforcements for this statement?
> 1. In kUrmapurANam :
> ashakto yadi mAH dhyAtumaishvaraM rUpamavyayam.
> tadA me sakale rUpe kAlAdye.anantabhedini..
> yadeva rUpaM me tAta manasogocharastava.
> tanniShThastatparo bhUtvA tadarchanaparo bhava..
> yattu me niShkalaM rUpaM chinmAtraM kevalaM shivam.
> sarvopAdhivinirmuktamekmevAmR^itaM param..
> GYAnenaikena tallabhyaM kleshena paramaM padam..
> 2. In yogavAsiShTha :
> sAmAnyaM paramaM cheti dve rUpe viddhi me.anagha.
> pANyAdiyuktaM sAmAnyaM yattu mUDhA upAsate..
> paraM rUpamanAdyantaM yanmamaikamanAmayam.
> 3. In gItA
> avyaktA hi gatirduHkhaM dehavadbhiravApyate.
> There are some more evidences, but I'm unable to recall them.
> Anyhow, vedAnata declares brahman devoid of name and form and knowledge of
> this brahman direct cause of liberation. As it is difficult, so brahman took
> form, etc. (this is what kUrma says.) to make incapable ones able to walk on
> path of liberation.
> yogavAsiShTha says these people mUDha.
> gItA says path of nirguNa difficult.
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