[Advaita-l] Saguna and Nirguna Sruti
bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com
Wed Apr 27 00:21:13 CDT 2011
But there is one more Nyaya known as Utsarga Apavada Nyaya. There is
a Sruti saying a Pashu can be killed for Yajna. One more Sruti saying
animals must not be killed. The second Sruti means the animals can be
killed in Yajnas like the first Sruti is saying. But other animals
must not be killed. This is coming from Mimamsa.
> Kindly tell me what is the relevance of this nyAya with regard to the
present context of our discussion ?? The point to be noted here is advaita
does not side line the saguNa shruti-s and it does acknowledges the
importance of these shruti-s in the upAsana, dhyAna, archanAdi mArga. And
strongly recommend it to the manda & madhyama adhikAri-s like us.
sOpAdhika brahma & its upAsana have their own important place in advaita
vedAnta and upAsana finds its place in jnAna kAnda of vedAnta as well
since upAsana gives us the apEkshikAmrutattva phala which is almost near
to jnEya brahma paramArtha jnAna. Hence, shankara says in sUtra bhAshya :
tatra etasmin advaitavidyAprakaraNe 'abhyudaya sAdhanAni' upasanAni
But where is Sruti saying Brahman does not have Divine Gunas like
Power and Omnisicience. Where is Nirguna Sruti denying Gunas of Saguna
> nirguNa shruti does not deny the guNa-s of saguNa brahman, but it says
para brahma is guNAteeta or guNa-dOsha vivarjita. While advocating
absolute non-visheshaNa of nirupAdhika brahma shankara duly points out the
sarvajnatva, sarva shaktitva of brahman as a creator, sustainer &
destroyer while denying any other reason for this 'jagatsrushti'.
But the divine Gunas are not limited Gunas. They are unlimited. God
has unlimited Power has unlimited Knowledge unlimited Size unlimited
> yes agreed but point is we can not limit brahman's boundaries with ONLY
'sarva kalyANa guNa sampannatva' he is Ota-prOta in each & everything..the
word 'sarvam' in 'sarvaM khalvidam brahma' indicates his 'sarvavyApakatva'
irrespective of guNa-dOsha..we have to say he is everything and there is
nothing apart from him, he cannot be everything minus something :-))
One method to not put limitations on Brahman is Nirguna with no Gunas.
If there are no Gunas there cannot be limitations for them. But
another method is there. Brahman has unlimited Gunas. We cannot
imagine unlimited Gunas but God will have unlimited Gunas. He has no
> again agreed..that is the reason why we say brahman is ekamevAdviteeya,
we cannot impose any visheshaNa-s on IT, shruti also confirms this by
saying : astUlaM, anaNu, ahrasva, adheerghaM, ashabdaM, asparshaM, arUpaM,
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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