[Advaita-l] Saguna and Nirguna Sruti
bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com
Tue Apr 26 04:59:37 CDT 2011
Kindly explain what is this Apaccheda Nyaya?
> I dont know anything in detail about this nyAya..I vaguely remember
read about this in Sri SSS Kannada commentary on Sri bhAshya of rAmAnuja.
Does jaimuni talks about it in his sUtra-s?? In short, we can keep some
statement/concepts in-hold for further clarification, and this
clarification would supersede the statement/concept which has been held
earlier. Not sure of this explanation myself, you can always check with
scholars in this list.
This is the problem. Why Saguna Sruti for Upasana only? Vedanta Desika
thinks it can be for Moksha directly.
> upAsana also would fetch the krama mukti and upAsaka would reach the
hiraNyagarbha lOka & finally after 'mahA pralaya' he would get the
ultimate brahma jnAna.
The Sruti can teach Neti Neti means Doshas and Gunas not in Saguna Sruti
are not there.
> did not get you!!?? shruti says neti neti is the 'highest' teaching,
it does not say brahma is dOsha varjita & guNa pUrna while exclaiming
"yato vAcho nivartante aprApya manasa saha" !!??
Asthula can be Brahman is Sukshma and inside everything indwelling in
> No here shruti saying it is neither gross (astUla) nor subtle/sUkshma
This means Brahman has no wordly Gunas we see daily in life. It has Divine
> So, this makes brahman limited & he is restricted himself only to
divine guNa-s..That is the reason why we say he is sOpAdhika, guNapUrNa,
No it is shoulder height bouncer but when batsman ducks low it will go
over his head. The batsman cannot call a no ball. The Umpire is not saying
it is no ball. You can get run out in a no ball.
> As I said before, when the ball is hit for a big six, where is the
question of run out, here batsman is not ducking he is 'hitting' it to the
I agree with this. But we must hear what others say and what is their
perspective and why is Advaita better.
> Instead of checking others' scholarship on this issue, why dont you
approach shankara bhAshya for the answer?? you would hear the authentic
answer 'right from the horse mouth' :-)) ( the new saying which I learnt
recently from the e-mail discussion :-))
> BTW you can read more about advaita stand on sOpAdhika upAsya brahma &
nirupAdhika jneya brahma from shankara's sUtra bhAshya.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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