[Advaita-l] Swami Nithyananda - the main issue
satisharigela at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 21 03:45:04 CDT 2010
Sorry for the late response: Sorry for any
incoherence in my
response below as I type this in a hurry.
Whether Nithyananda is a genuine Guru or not is
only 10% of
the issue. At a personal level I have nothing to do with him.
The greater issue is the way the church-communist
to interfere (directly or indirectly through media) in Hindu affairs and
efforts to taint Hindu guru-s to the extent that the common man
I am in total agreement with V Subramanian-ji and
Anbu-Sivam-ji’s views on this matter. I replaced the word God with
devata-s below :-)
“We do not know who needs what kind of guidance.
Protector, Provider devata-s have innumerable plans, devices, methods,
paths laid out
for each individual. They attract people to their fold thru miracles,
siddhis, cures for afflictions, and the like. For a vast majority of
people the initial steps to spirituality could be these. They need to
tread this path. “
Shri Vidyasankar ji writes:
>“although I don't necessarily buy into his
theory. It is too easy to point >fingers at Christian organizations
political outfits, without doing much needed >self-critical analysis
There seems to be a weakness within Nithyananda’s
organization and the church made the best out of it. As an example: A
traditional sanyasin belonging to the smArta sAmpradaya in my place who
involved in anti-conversion activities allegedly caught the hand of a
woman. There was some major pamphleteering on this issue in my home town
when people dug deep into this, it was found out that the one
these pamphlets were actually Christians.
Similarly you might be familiar with the church
the St Thomas Mount in Chennai and how the Arch Bishop of Madras,
15 lakhs to forge some manuscripts by inserting Christian elements into
Likewise what happened in kandhmal where the church
the job of killing Swami lakshmananda saraswati(who was actively
anti-conversion activities) to the communists.
From the time of Emperor Constantine, the Church
its mafia tactics and we are dealing with something that used such mafia
tactics successfully for more than 1000 years.
>“Is the weight of sampradAya an impediment
>that distances the more traditional guru-s from the average Hindu?”
No names here: but the pIThAdhipati of a certain
maTha in the south once tried to dissuade a teacher who is an
mantravAdin from initiating a shUdra student into mantra-s. I am not
about vaidika mantra-s but those mantra-s where the purANa-s and Agama-s
clearly say, can be given to a shUdra student. There are a few examples
these. This attitude of the maTha heads will not help us. That is why
people flock to people like Nithyananda.
>“A person who wears saffron robes, but does not
> authentic guru-paramparA behind him/her, has to be
treated with caution.”
Yes of course. There is a very traditional maTha in
South, known for its orthodoxy but then the maTha head is a homo-sexual.
this because he tried to force himself upon someone who is very close to
Someone whom I have known for more than 10 years and is a great upAsaka. A traditional
background does not guarantee that everything is genuine but of course
deviations like the one I mentioned above are quite rare in traditional
Now why do I mention this: What I am trying to say
there will be minor faults in any institution (whether they be Hindu,
jaina or pretAchAra i.e. Christianity), and the church and communist
media seems to be trying every trick in their bags to make use of these
to eliminate Hinduism for reasons which are very well known.
>“It is too easy to point fingers at Christian
>other political outfits, without doing much needed self-critical
The self –critical analysis is needed no doubt, but
should not lose sight of external organizations, mainly the church and
communists so that they don’t hammer us to a point where we cannot do
against their onslaught.
> I feared that something
>of this nature would happen and bring it all down with a big bang. I
>this young Swami, no matter his sampradAya or lack thereof, would
>sense and self-discipline to avoid all this. Guess not.”
I had the same fear when listening to his lectures
noticed his fame, and here it is unfortunately.
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