[Advaita-l] On the forms of Guru

Anbu sivam2 anbesivam2 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 19 07:27:12 CDT 2010

Pranaams Baskarji,

"I dont think mind is an utter useless in brhmajignAsa."

This is the starting point of giving importance to the mind which starting
point ignores the fact that the falsehood that we suffer from is the mind's

My Guru used to say: "If you hold a live wire it will shock you.  Drop it!"

All discussions are of human mind, is it not?  Do you think I can succeed in
getting its help when I advocate manOnaasam?

Whatever will be will be!


On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> I felt it to be a technical discussion rather than objective enlightenment
> as in my view the mind is not
> only useless but the greatest impediment and a fetter.
> praNAms Sri Anbusivam prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
> I dont think mind is an utter useless in brhmajignAsa.  A shama damAdi
> susamskruta mana is Atma darshana karaNa (sAstrAchAryOpadesha shama damAdi
> saMskrutaM manaH Atmadarshane karaNaM) says shankara in geeta bhAshya.
> manasaivedamAptavyaM nena nAnAsti kiNchana so says shruti.. So, we cannot
> push aside the utility of mana prior to self realization.  But this mana
> would not be anymore 'individual' mana to the samyak darshi jnAni and for
> him 'sarvaM' khalvidaM brahma...like kAtaka powder (example given by
> shankara), mana losts its individuality in jnAni and he dissolves himself
> in upAdhi rahita paripUrNa jnAna.  This does not man jnAni in his pre
> realization period has the individual mind & in post realization period
> this would vanish in thin air..His realization reveals him the fact that
> he was/is/will be always THAT without any upAdhi saMbandha !!
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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