[Advaita-l] Advaitic Foods - penance

Dr D Bharadwaj dr.d.bharadwaj at gmail.com
Sun Dec 19 02:03:26 CST 2010


Thank you, Sunilji























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Dr. D. Bharadwaj
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sarvE bhavantu sukhinaH |
sarvE santu nirAmayAH |
sarvE bhadrAni paSyantu |
*mA kaschit duHkha bhAg bhavEt || *








On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Sri Bharadwaj,
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> Sorry for the delay and you might have seen that reference yourself by now.
> However if I may add, we find in the Bhagavad that Lord Krishna tells us
> "Sparsaan kritvaa bahir baahyaamschakshus chaivaantare bhruvoh" and for that
> the  usefulness of the Shanmukhi mudra during the pranayama need not be
> overemphasised. The Mudra has also a expiatory action as it melts away papa.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
>
> --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Dr D Bharadwaj <dr.d.bharadwaj at gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Dr D Bharadwaj <dr.d.bharadwaj at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Advaitic Foods - penance
> To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:53 AM
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> Dear Sri Sunil,
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> Great reply. Crisp and to the point.
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> The anecdote about the power of Rama nama is indeed very interesting. The
> the real input to me is what Manu's endorsement of Pranayama for parihara.
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> Can you help me find out where exactly Manu had said these  significant
> words??
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> శ్రీరమణార్పణమస్తు
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> Dr. D. Bharadwaj
> dr.d.bharadwaj at gmail.com
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> <dr.d.bharadwaj at gmail.com>
> sarvE bhavantu sukhinaH |
> sarvE santu nirAmayAH |
> sarvE bhadrAni paSyantu |
> *mA kaschit duHkha bhAg bhavEt || *
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> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
> sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Dear Satishji,
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> > I appreciate your nice reply. However may I supplement your note with the
> > following:
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> > Manu says that there is no sin in eating meat, though he indicates that
> it
> > is better not to eat meat. Lord Buddha advised the monks  that they could
> > eat meat provided the animal was not killed specifically for the monk and
> he
> > did not see the killing and nor he heard the death-cry of the animal.
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> > As regards the penance Manu says that Pranayama is the highest of the
> Tapas
> > and that can remove the sins..
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> > There is another alternative too. That is to take the name of Lord Ram.
> > There is an anecdote related to this but I do not remember the reference.
> > Once a person committed a grave sin and for its propitiation he went to a
> > rishi's ashram. The rishi was not in the ashram at that time and he told
> his
> > problem to the son of the rishi. The latter advised the former to utter
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> > name of Lord Ram three times. later on when the rishi came to know about
> it
> > he scolded his son saying uttering Lord Ram's name just once can removes
> > hundreds of sins. However there is the  custom is to utter the holy name
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> > Lord Ram three times or Sri Vishnu three times.
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> > These observations are not meant to discourage one from following the
> > conventional ways you have suggested.
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> > Regards,
> >
> > Sunil K.Bhattacharjya
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> > --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Satish Arigela <satisharigela at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Satish Arigela <satisharigela at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Advaitic Foods - penance
> > To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 2:47 AM
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> > >The dish had prawn oils in it.
> > >Is there any official ritual i must perform for this sin I have
> committed?
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> > No need to lose sleep over this. But there are many penances for
> consuming
> > prohibited foods.
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> > The best one is to follow that which one's sva-guru or a family purohita,
> > or the
> > AchArya of any maTha(if the family follows that maTha from generations)
> > prescribes. Please also see the list below.
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> > >7.Or is it part of their svadharma (by virtue of being born into that
> > >varna/jaathi) that they can meat regardless of locale of residence or
> > occupation
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> > >or >change in circumstance ?
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> > >This is true.
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> > A correction. To eat meat is not their sva-dharma.. but just one of their
> > many
> > options which the dharma-shAstra does not have a problem with.
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> > >brAhmaNa-s refraining from eating meat is more because of bauddha and
> > jaina
> > >influence.
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> > This should not be misunderstood to that mean before these mata-s Hindu-s
> > were
> > regularly consuming mAmsa or that these mata-s introduced a vegetarian
> > lifestyle. With the arrival of these mata-s, preference for vegetarian
> food
> > increased among the elite.
> >
> > As said before, smArta-s already had the practice of refraining from meat
> > and
> > women in the context of vrata/tapas/mantra-purascharana etc.
> >
> > Below is a list of penances if prohibited foods are consumed:
> >
> > 1.1) drinking vAruNi beer inadvertantly: Has to have to undergo a new
> > upanayanaM
> > to be ritually fit.
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> > 1.2) drinking vAruNi beer intentionally: There is no penance- the death
> is
> > the
> > only reliever, and one looses that status of a dvija
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> > 2) If he touches, receives or gives a beer or a wine, he should drink
> water
> > boiled with kusha grass for 3 days.
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> > 3) If he accidently drinks urine he must underg a re-upanayanaM.
> >
> > 4) If inadvertantly eats foul-smelling food he is ritually impure until
> it
> > is
> > entirely excreted.
> >
> > 5)If he eats forbidden meats, mushrooms, or meat from a slaughterhouse he
> > must
> > under go the chandrAyana penance.
> >
> > 6)For meat derived from fowls he must undergo the arduous sAntapana
> > penance.
> >
> > 7)If he eats food tained by the lick of a cat, dog, rat, mongoose, crow
> or
> > insects, he should consume a decoction of the brahmasuvarchala plant that
> > will
> > save from their disasterous effects. He can become ritually pure if he
> > vomits
> > those foods.
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