[Advaita-l] Svarita in RV and YV (was Re: SRI SUKTAM - Meaning)
vaidix at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 6 13:45:39 CST 2009
I posted this earlier on this board.
Brhadaranyaka Upanishat I.4.15.
tadetad brahma kshatram vish (literaly..vit due to some
rule) shUdraH tadagninaiva deveshu brahmA bhavat
brAhmaNo manushyeshu kshatriyeNa kshatriyo
vaishyena vaishyaH shUdraNa shUdraH tasmAt
agnAveva deveshu lokAmichchate brAhmaNo
manushyevetAbhyAM hi rUpAbhyAm brahmAbhavat
Translation as per sacred-texts.com:
15. There are then this Brahman, Kshatra, Vis, and
Sûdra. Among the Devas that Brahman existed as Agni
(fire) only, among men as Brâhmana, as Kshatriya
through the (divine) Kshatriya, as Vaisya through the
(divine) Vaisya, as Sûdra through the (divine) Sûdra.
Therefore people wish for their future state among the
Devas "through" Agni (the sacrificial fire) only; and
among men "through" the Brâhmana, for in these two
forms did Brahman exist.
Please note the word 'through' agni and 'thorugh'
brahmana. Through brahmana doesn't help
here because it does not allow one to become
But in the advaita-ashrama publications it was
translated as :'through' agni and 'as' brahmana.
I am not sure if this is a typo. If 'as' brahmana is
indeed correct, we hit the jackpot. Any one can
become brahmana by doing as prescribed by Shruti.
In fact in the remaining half of the I.4.15, Shruti
"Now if a man departs this life without having seen his
true future life (in the Self), then that Self, not being
known, does not receive and bless him, as if the Veda
had not been read, or as if a good work had not been
done. Nay, even if one who does not know that (Self),
should perform here on earth some great holy work, it
will Perish for him in the end. Let a man worship the
Self only as his true state. If a man worships the Self
only as his true state, his work does not Perish, for
whatever he desires that he gets from that Self."
This part of the Shruti makes it mandatory for people
to find self, because without knowing self even the
good works done by the ordinary person (even a
shudra) become undone. His whole life is a waste.
After becoming self, there is no distinction between
brahmana, kshatriya, etc anyway.
I will recheck translations and commentaries today.
Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list.
More information about the Advaita-l mailing list