[Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 61, Issue 2
bkmahapatro at gmail.com
Wed Aug 5 04:51:26 CDT 2009
Thanks for this good discussion. I feel its time we revive some of the most
wonderful aspects of our tradition.
On deeper inquiry it is not appropriate to compare Maxmuller with kuru
warriors. Bhishma at one time honesly suggested to Dhrtarashtra that
Duryodhana be executed for the conspiracy to kill pandavas. Maxmuller may
not have taught clergy, but he knew his research could be used for other
purposes, and somebody else did followed up based on his research.
Secularism - separation of faith and administration - is only on paper to
make sure same person is not publicly involved in conflicing activities. As
in the case of Shrouta, in cases like this you have to weave through the
infrastructure to realize the truth.
Dear all. HARI-OUM. (हरी ओम)
Excellent education for a new learner like me.
Just a few thoughts:
One thing at a time (sorry, I am new) ignore it if it is irrelevent.:
First the Pedagogy:
The "stories" or the "lessons" purported to be taught though scriptures
like Veadas and Maha Bharata are probably to be read with the "SUMKHMA
DRUSTI" ( the format of Astik(!) probably ) in order to reap the full
benefit and avoid wrong reading.
Most (including me) often read them with the "SHTULA DRUSTI" with the
mental format of present-day geo-politial / techno-economical / neo--social
environment, thereby missing to disvcover the verity and veracity of the
Knowledge and Wisdom that it has in store for it. hence first of comparative
reflection of vedic chararcters are to be shunned (like Kurus and MaxmullerS
and /or the like.
Second the Technology:
The capabilities, Technological or otherwise, commonly known to us today are
abysmally little to what probably had been mastered (probably not documented
in language as known to us today) by the then Gurus, Rishis, Acharyas,
Tapawsees; whether in terms of Transports(Ratha) or Aviation(viman) or Space
Technology(interplanetary movements< or Mettalurgy < or weaponery , Storage
and Retrievals Tunir, vigible Ashras, Invisible Astras, loading of soft-ware
to the before launch, conditional operating mechanism, weapons capable of
decision making enrout, changing direction, capability to withdrawal after
firing, tracing the invisible objectives (infra red/ thermal wave detection,
night vision etc. etc) and many more. Only a part of these capabilities are
now vigible to a few nations / individuals even today with the advent of
nuclear &missile technology.lots and lots of research is required in this
direction to unveil the secrets of yore Yugas.
Third, the Timescale and interpretation by Western/ European Scholars:
While Western/ European science is far ahead of indian facilities today and
the Scholar are illustrious and unparellal, there may be a limitation to
their understanding of Indian "Sanskuti" of "Yugas"(युग.)(thousands of
years each) and the their tansition in sequence;and the "Pralay" (प्रलय)(
the cause and effect of which, for most is merely imaginery to a common
man); the "kala" ; and the Yugapurusha(s)( युगापुरुशस), the Parshuram(s),
the Hanuman(s), the Avataras and relevence of their existence in
development & transition (evolution !) who might have carried the parts
of development and /or civilisation during the change over/ transition, are
well beyond full understanding of all of us, let alon foreigners.Unless
these aspects are well assimilated, there can be conflict in sequencing
and understanding vedic wisdom and their interpretation at different times,
as also the rituals are documented in certain social context. Hence
their(foreigner's) views and expressions, are to be understood with due
respect to their frames They, afterall, have seen or documented,
civilasation of a few thousand years, at the best, as of now.
Hence, this forum can be a great source of knowledge for all. Deep
regards to contributers who are imparting valuable knowledge by quoting the
relevent references of the Vedic Scripts.
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