[Advaita-l] Sola Fide (was Re: Sraddha and Chitta-shuddhi)
michael at shepherd87.fsnet.co.uk
Fri Apr 3 11:11:02 CDT 2009
We have a word in English, 'whole-hearted'.. that does me very well for
shradda. But I continue to emphasize : 'faith' has its beginning in karma;
must be persevered with or lost; and ends where God wills it..
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M-W's definition of shraddha is wrong. Shraddha is not faith, Shraddha is
keenness (in learning something).
When my mother told me to 'Read with shraddha', she did not mean read
whatever was in the book
blindly. She always meant read with attention, concentration and keenness.
alertness to avoid wrong learning, or coming to wrong conclusions etc.
Faith as per M-W is faith, belief and loyalty without any doubt.
Shraddha is the opposite of Faith.
No doubt a good portion of English language comes from Christian religious
many times the meanings are changed to suit religion (e.g., In Roman times
the word pagan
used to mean villager without any connection to religion, now it means
Oh, well, Sanskrit was also a ritual language born of theology, so we can't
it is like kettle calling pot black. Let us not be in denial, in fact I
encourage exploring this field.
We can derive many philosophical meanings from even ordinary words, because
is an inflective language. Even as atma twists and turns a little, a new
word is created.
Talking of pardon and mercy, I came across a nice dialog our friend Michael
Shepherd started in a different board.
My five cents:
- Platonians at this URL think mercy is unfair, and not worth it.
- Sankara says there is no way you can escape from results of your works.
(Mercy will not help.)
Knowledge of nonduality does not release you from results of your works; it
only lifts you from
the dual world of work & results. If there is work there will be a result;
unless you argue karma
itself is non-different from jnana (my pet argument).
- In Islam they say 'Allah is merciful'. But the person saying this is not
- In Christianity mercy is given to those who accept a particular God and
join the country club.
- Buddhist/Hindu karuna is sympathy for people who deserve it, those who are
sick, unfortunate etc.
In fact apAtra daanam is forbidden.
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