[Advaita-l] Discussion on "Knowledge and the means of Knowledge", with reference to VP
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Tue Mar 18 21:49:11 CDT 2008
Thanks very much prabhu, I greatly appreciate your answer. But honestly your answer also points out the illusionary nature. The very last statement of yours "Even God who we assume to be a creator, maintainer, and destroyer is in fact none of those and it is ignorance which causes the false assumption". If mind is the source of the God - "Sagun Brahm"- The creater, then the same source also serve for the created as well". Don't you think so?
Then the mind is the creater and the created. In my humble view the perceived duality can never be real but just a relative stand point. The issue is how the mind first of all come in to existence. And Advaita says it is"inexplicable". In other words there is neither creation nor destruction and Atman alone exists "Non-dual". However a person may perceive the world real so long he hasn't realized the true nature. Please correct me if I am wrong. In mean time I will also get hold of VP so that I am clear with the message. I will also ask Swami Tyaganandaji Maharaj of Boston Vedanta society to make sure that I understand it right.
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From: Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Discussion on "Knowledge and the means of Knowledge", with reference to VP
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, sivaramakrishnan muthuswamy wrote:
> Dear All,
> Please help me in understanding the line "envelops the object,and takes
> the shape of the object". How it is possible in Advaitic stand point of
> view? I was thinking that all these time that mind itself take the form
> of the object as it is the source and sink .
This would mean there is no objective reality. It is an illusion "all in
your head." However this is not the Advaitic understanding.
But the explanation of
> Dharmarajaji allows the dvaitic point of view where the object should
> have existed earlier so that mind can envelope it (just like the cast
> for metal/Wax sculpture should have existed before so that the gold
> smith can melt the gold and pour on the cast).
All objects and categories are created by Ishvara (God) at the time of
creation and dissolved by Him at the pralaya. This cycle continues
>From the point of view of the created, duality is "real" It is from a
higher perspective that we see that mind and its objects are transient and
not real. Even God who we assume to be a creator, maintainer, and
destroyer is in fact none of those and it is ignorance which causes the
Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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