[Advaita-l] kshetram and kshetraj~na
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 16 12:26:47 CDT 2003
Advaitic interpretation of the sloka, as I understand.
"idam shareeram kountEya kshEtramityabhideeyate"
There is a line after this yetat dyo vettitam praahuH kshetraj~na
There are only two factors that have been specified here one is the
field and another is knower of this field. It is the same as saying
that there is a saakshee that knows his kshetra . Everybody knows
their body and also mistakes that they are the body that is part of
adhyaasa and that is why the whole Geetopadesha starts.
Krishna now goes one step further in the next sloka that was quoted.
He does not need to do this second sloka since he has already defined
the kshetraj~na is the one who knows his body. That is every jiiva
they can be million, but each jiiva knows its body and tries to
"kshEtrajnyam chApi mAm viddhi sarva kshEtrEshu bhArata"
For me this in fact reinforces who that saakshee really is. There are
two words - cha api - Essentially telling arjuna that 'know also that' -
otherwise each jiiva may misunderstand that he is the kshetraj~na and
stops with that. Hence 'also'
Therefore Krishna is now giving a broader perspective of true nature
of jiiva or true nature of the kshetraj~na in the above statement. That
is perfectly clear to me. There is samanvaya with this and tat tvam asi
statement. Who said that geeta does not teach advaita?
>"KshEtrajnya" is one who knows all bodies (sarva kshEtrEshu).
In this statement Krishna provides further clarification of who that
kshetraj~na really is.
Since he has already established in the first sloka it is saakshee
that knows the shaariiram in each jiiva, this statement becomes a
pramaaNa vaakyam to provide a new knowledge that there is really one
kshetraj~na. Notions of many jiiva-s are only notional and not
factual. Ignorance is taking the notional as factual. Krishna as a
teacher is now providing a new understanding which jiiva does not
know other wise. In that sense Shaastra becomes a pramaaNa - otherwise
I donot need geeta to tell me that I know my body. I already know that
even before I opend geeta book.
>and for this reason it can not be jeevAtma.
Yes, for that reason jiivaatma is notional and not factual and we need
shaastra to remove that notional misunderstanding.
>Scientists estimate that
>so far only 20% of all land-roving animals have been identified, and
>estimate 1.3 trillion species to exist in the ocean.
>Whoever thinks that Geeta is teaching that this jeevAtman himself is
>"KshEtrajnya" in "sarva kshEtrEshu" should come forward to help our
>scientists with the the remaining 80% or accept the fact that it is
>say that only the Creator can be the Kshetrajnya in "sarva kshEtrEshu"
I failed to see any relevancy of the above statement or logic of
helping the scientists in discovering of unknown species .
This is just another example of type of objections against Advaita. I
will try not to generalize this as the measure of the quality of the
objections dvaitins are raising against Advaita!
The rest of the mail is irrelevant for me since it is build on the same
What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda.
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