[Advaita-l] Bhutas and Tantra

[K Kathirasan NCS]

Namaste,

Ganesha is also a Tantra shastra deity. Tantras are also known as Agamas.
Ganesha does appear in the Shaiva Agamas or Tantras. 

best regards,
K Kathirasan

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	venkata subramanian [SMTP:venkat_advaita at yahoo.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:46 PM
> To:	A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> Subject:	Re: [Advaita-l] Bhutas and Tantra
> 
> Yes Jaldhar Vyas,
>  
> in fact, i tried to (with my very limited knowledge of kannada) to
> decipher (!) the Foot note by Swami Sachidanandendra Saraswathi of
> Holenarsipur in his Kannada translation of the Gita Bhashya on this exact
> place.  there he says that vinayaka etc denotes the Tantra Shastra
> deities.....(his foot note is something to that effect).  Thus vinayaka
> here is Not Ganesh.
>  
> Also, as you have rightly remarked, None of the commentaries like
> Shankarananda Saraswathi's or Gudartha deepika or Bhashyotkarsha deepika
> or even Upanishad Brahmendra Yogi's commentary has equated vinayaka here
> in this sloka = Ganesha.
>  
> Could you please throw some more light on this Chathur Bhagini ( 4
> sisters)
> 
> 
> "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar at braincells.com> wrote:On Fri, 22 Aug 2003,
> venkata subramanian wrote:
> 
> > The reply has cleared some of my doubts. however, in the Srimad
> > Bhagavad Gita Bhashya, is not the Acharya using the word - Vinayaka
> > matrugana chaturbhaginyadi.....(if i remember correct).
> > the word "vinayaka" there is it not is singular ?! the "adi" is only
> > the prathyahara of etc. thus vinayaka is it not in singular there. if
> > it is so, then how come can we take it directly as vinayakas and mean
> > only the evil spirits.
> 
> Yes it is singular. However each of the commentators mentions groups in
> explaining this shloka. Alongside the three Shankaracharya mentioned,
> Shankaranandi and Gudarthadipika also mention: yakshas, rakshasas,
> yakshinis, vetalas, pishachas, and kshetrapalas as examples of bhutas.
> They are all groups of devayonis.
> 
> It just struck me that perhaps it is similiar to the way Rudra is
> represented as one or eight or eleven or even an infinite number of
> Rudras.
> 
> 
> > Also, if i remember correct, i have seen a description of Uma Himavan's
> > daughter as Brahma vidya in the Kena Upanishad Bhashya. Where is this
> > description given in the Chandyogya Bhashya ?
> 
> No it's my mistake it should be kenopanishad.
> 
> > in any case, thank you for the Chapter from Yagnyavalkya smrithi in
> > this regard.
> >
> 
> Another mistake is vinayakakalpadiprakarana is the 11th not 7th.
> 
> In researching this I found it curious that none of the commentators have
> made the equation Vinayaka = Ganesh.
> 
> -- 
> Jaldhar H. Vyas 
> It's a girl! See the pictures - http://www.braincells.com/shailaja/
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> Thanks & Regards,
> Venkat.
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> Sadgurubhyo Namah.
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