Keeping Shikha [was Re: Sannyasins & cutting of the hair?]
srikrishna_ghadiyaram at YAHOO.COM
Fri Aug 9 23:34:10 CDT 2002
Hari Om !!
I am surprised about your attitude.
On one count, you say that "Do you know that even a
sannyasin has to fight the ego"
and you still advocate "As a protest I refused to wear
the sacred thread and
I still don't wear it! "
"Religion is your own inner conviction I think.
However each is entitled to his views."
What do you call this fallacy !!
The above statements are not only EGOTIC, but also
Consider the otherside of the view, What is wrong in
having an outward sign if that represents your inner
In the process you have hurt your parents, your
teachers, and followers and dharma.
Just a few days ago you were telling a sloka saying
that you do not want to hurt anyone ??? Where is
Om Namo Narayanaya !!
--- Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Dear Manian,
> (This is how I used to address a friend who was also
> V Subhramanian)
> My upanayana was postponed by over a year because I
> simply refused to cut my hair and sport the sikha.
> However I was finally forced to undergo the ritual.
> As a protest I refused to wear the sacred thread and
> still don't wear it!
> I am personally against all outward signs of
> Religion is your own inner conviction I think.
> each is entitled to his views.
> Do you know that even a sannyasin has to fight the
> of "I am a sannyasin" and it seems it is very hard
> get over and is also a big hindrance to realisation.
> --- "Subrahmanian, Sundararaman V [IT]"
> <sundararaman.v.subrahmanian at CITIGROUP.COM> wrote:
> > Actually it might be easier in the US than India.
> > In India, they know what
> > it is and hence make it an object of ridicule.
> > here it might pass off
> > as an exotic hair-do. -:)-:)
> > Anyways, your point is well taken. I have a lot
> > more to work on myself -
> > that's all I can gather from this.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ashish Chandra [mailto:ramkisno at HOTMAIL.COM]
> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:17 PM
> > To: ADVAITA-L at LISTS.ADVAITA-VEDANTA.ORG
> > Subject: Keeping Shikha [was Re: Sannyasins &
> > cutting of the hair?]
> > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:57:24 -0400, Subrahmanian,
> > Sundararaman V [IT]
> > <sundararaman.v.subrahmanian at CITIGROUP.COM> wrote:
> > >That's quite brave of you to have a shikha in US.
> > Even in India I would
> > >have felt embarassed.
> > >
> > >Good for you!
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >SVS
> > >
> > Actually, once you realize that you are right and
> > everyone else (who scoffs
> > at keeping a Shikha) is wrong, then its no problem
> > :-)
> > What really inspired me was reading Hindu Dharma.
> > Also, the reason we feel
> > embarassed (IMO) is that it's either considered
> > backward or no one keeps it
> > anymore or there may be fear of being teased about
> > it. However, when one
> > knows the reasons for keeping a Shikha and the
> > towards which one
> > wishes to travel, then the external fear factor
> > drops away. Sticking to
> > one's dharma, at least as much as possible, is
> > always good. But one must
> > also be careful that the banana peal is not
> > for the banana fruit
> > itself: the effort to be different (by being less
> > more dharmic) always
> > has some pride associated with it. One can wear
> > angavastra with Ram Ram on
> > it and have the filthiest of hearts. I think these
> > things one should watch
> > out for and I continue to learn from experience.
> > namaste
> > ashish
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