Why the same dream?
goode at DPW.COM
Tue Nov 25 13:22:47 CST 1997
At 01:52 PM 11/25/97 -0500, Daniel Singer wrote:
>In a message dated 97-11-24 16:12:43 EST, Greg wrote:
> Firstly, this discussion and the topic are at the vyavahaarika level
> where the concept that there are many jeevas is acceptable and is valid.
> Many jeevas have many minds. And these many minds create the many worlds
> and hence these worlds are different. I still do not see evidence that all
> these minds create only one world.
I didn't write this! What is the vyavahaarika level? Relative? Within
avidya? What is the other level? I think the original question as to "why
the same dream" was being asked at the absolute level, or maybe taking
concepts from each level and mixing them. If we understand everything at
the vyavahaarika level only, then why not just accept one of the creation
>Yes. I experience it similarly, Greg. Does delight know from whence it arose?
>"I"seriously doubt it, but "Delight", when it takes over completely, has no
>notion of "Source". Doesn't this notion of "Source" arises from the apparatus
>of experience and expression. This apparatus appears for a purpose that could
>never be fathomed by anything but the apparatus itself. So it would appear
>that mind can never create anything, unless by the word "create" one means a
>relative process(like one billiard ball hitting another and "causing" a
>transfer of energy. But this kind of "causing" is surely not "Causality").
>So with humor but I suggest that maybe it's just a question of using capital
>letters where necessary.
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